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Chris's picture

yep, only "dancing Israelis", move along.....

 

Spoopy-"The Israeli 9/11 connection, if any, is minuscule. If you are looking for foreign complicity look to the Saudis and the Pakistanis. That is where the money trails have been proven to lead. And you are kidding yourself if you think the "dancing Israelis" story is good evidence of involvement. What? Young Israelis were seen videotaping the WTC and goofing around and then when stopped by the cops supposedly said something like, "Hey, we are Israelis. The Palestinians did it." If you ask me it is a red herring, a paper thin excuse to somehow blame Jews and distract attention away from the Bush crime family. "

http://www.911blogger.com/node/17118#comment

gretavo's picture

"Did the terrorists have help?"

Is how the Loose Changout boyz introduce the Israeli connection? I guess it makes sense if the terrorist in question is a certain lucky leaseholder...

Chris's picture

yep, "the al

yep, "the al qaeda terrorists" always end up with the main credit for the attacks in the end. typical. honestly, im surprised Israel is being mentioned at all by these guys. Loose Change served its purpose, it was early in the game and exposed some of the more obvious lies/anomalies and it got the ball rolling for a good amount of people. but Final Cut was pretty weak and its way past time to name names if you know what i mean. Zakheim(and the companies/interests hes tied to) probably wont be mentioned, Suter might but surely he will be painted as somebody who was simply "tracking" the "hijackers" etc.

dicktater's picture

Snoopy

Did you see the reply to Snoopy by truthurts?

Israeli Connection

Puhlease.....give me a break. The Israeli's, along with the NeoCons, are the main suspects. It's pretty obvious that you are trying to cover for them. Maybe you will also try to tell us the USS Liberty was attacked by Palestinians.....bwhahahahaha......The IsraNazis (AshekeNAZIS) were the main beneficiaries......
Submitted by truthurts on Wed, 08/13/2008 - 10:30am.

Found this pic at link to web site provided by truthurts at 911b:


http://www.tyrannyalert.com/

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"But truthfully, I don't really know. We've had trouble getting a handle on Building No. 7."
~~ Dr. Shyam Sunder - Acting Director Building and Fire Research Laboratory (NIST)

Chris's picture

he wont last over there too

he wont last over there too long.

dicktater's picture

Go figure

and now this in reply to Snoopy:

Perhaps.

But only the money trails that we know about. Much is still unknown about the insider trading that preceded 9/11;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hbVPEZnl0w

The "Dancing Israelis" is a Red Herring. They were "celebrating"; Christopher Ketcham's report is one of the most objective reports on that aspect;
http://infowars.net/articles/march2007/080307Israel.htm

"Dancing Israelis" sounds too much like "Dancing Jews" for my taste. "Dancing Jews" in turn, can be considered a stereotype, and is likely considered a racist stereotype by some. 9/11 activists should drop the meme, IMO. Jewish dance has a strong tradition;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_dance

They weren't just "Israelis", according to Marc Perelman of the Jewish Daily, The Forward, two of the men apprehended on 9/11 were MOSSAD agents;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRLZVBtoMcE

Prior to 9/11, over "100 Israelis were stopped and questioned by DEA agents", and many of them had military and intelligence training, including training in electronic eavesdropping;
http://911blogger.com/node/15999

It's possible that these Israelis were intelligence assets as well, most likely Shin Bet, IMO. I think it's perfectly valid for 9/11 truthseekers to have questions about this situation. However, I've always felt uneasy about the fact that FOX News is the sole source of many details about the telecom company angle to this story. That could be a Red Herring, too.

I think it's impossible that the alleged hijackers conducted themselves on US soil unnoticed by the US intelligence community. I think it's doubly impossible that over 100 Israelis goofing around with wiretapping gear went unnoticed by NSA, they certainly didn't go unnoticed by the DEA, who leaked the report where the details about these "Art Students" was primarily leaked to the public.

Hoisting the entire blame onto "Jews", as you put it, is definitely something to keep an eye on. Western, primarily US intelligence, didn't groom their fabled enemies steadily since 1979 just to not use them. The Israeli DEA Groups were in close proximity with several of the alleged 9/11 hijackers;
http://911blogger.com/node/15999

Were they monitoring for Israel as Perelman and Ketcham suggest, or were they sub-contracted by US intel to monitor the very carefully groomed patsies, or was a more shadowy conglomerate linked to the Bush Crime Family in charge of the monitors? I don't know.

I want to know.
Submitted by Reprehensor on Wed, 08/13/2008 - 10:51am.

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"But truthfully, I don't really know. We've had trouble getting a handle on Building No. 7."
~~ Dr. Shyam Sunder - Acting Director Building and Fire Research Laboratory (NIST)

Chris's picture

:yaaaaaaaaaaawwwn: who is

:yaaaaaaaaaaawwwn: who is Reprecensor anyway? i mean, who REALLY is he?

larry horse's picture

Allan Giles

according to Kevin Barrett. does anyone have a problem with me posting his name? go ahead and delete this if you do.

Chris's picture

no problem

no problem here(obviously),but what i guess i really meant was what is his true purpose? the iron fist he rules with over there, and the way "certain" types of 9/11 activists are always banned from the site makes me more than a little suspicous of this person. it goes beyond just banning people for certain topics and extends to protecting certain people from that site as has been well documented. considering how prominent that site is in 9/11 truth circles and how Rep seemingly tries to control the discussion surrounding 9/11(as much as he can) i think its fair to ask. who really is Represhensor? is he just a control freak, anti-muslim 9/11 LIHOP activist who fully believes in what he is doing? or something else?

dicktater's picture

Do an eVil Google search...

...for ""Allan Giles" reprehensor" and you'll find that he has posted his real name, email address, and links to 911b himself voluntarily. It's public and posting here is not a problem, IMHO.

Example:

All Comment(s) Posted by Allan Giles

http://www.opednews.com/maxwrite/comments_authors.php?s=2221

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"But truthfully, I don't really know. We've had trouble getting a handle on Building No. 7."
~~ Dr. Shyam Sunder - Acting Director Building and Fire Research Laboratory (NIST)

Chris's picture

Reprecensor- "However, I've

Reprecensor- "However, I've always felt uneasy about the fact that FOX News is the sole source of many details about the telecom company angle to this story. That could be a Red Herring, too."

 

yes, and they scrubbed all Israel-9/11 related stories from their website and spiked the story as soon as they realized the implications(or were told to?). why do you suppose that happened Rep? does that make it less of a red herring? i would think so. and how fucking long can people keep up this "they were just monitoring" line? who really believes that bullshit?

dicktater's picture

Fabled Enemies - Israeli Operatives - Trailer 2

Fabled Enemies - Israeli Operatives - Trailer 2


Drunk with power.


The pink elephant in the living room.
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"But truthfully, I don't really know. We've had trouble getting a handle on Building No. 7."
~~ Dr. Shyam Sunder - Acting Director Building and Fire Research Laboratory (NIST)

gretavo's picture

How are the Dancing Israelisâ„¢ explained (away) to honest folks

Why, embed it in a scary documentary about scary anti-semites of course! No need to really explain anything, just state the facts and don't give anyone time to think before the next scary anti-semite appears on the screen:

Go to 23:00 in the video below...

gretavo's picture

dancing israelis followed by white supremacist blowback theorist

That National Alliance guy has to be be either bogus or the most clueless racist in the whole world...

Anyway, the dancing Israeli part totally glosses over the fact that they were discovered to have maps in their van, that they blamed Palestinians, that they were found to be working for a Mossad front, that at least two of them were active Mossad agents, that they were working in the US illegally, and that most of these facts were acknowledge by an FBI source and printed in the (Jewish) Forward magazine. They spin it so that it sounds like these were just some guys who were relieved that "now America feels our pain and will support Israel more".