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E. Martin Schotz


"I've had enough of someone else's propaganda... I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I'm for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole."

Malcolm X

"I am a passionate seeker after Truth and a not less passionate enemy of the malignant fictions used by the "Party of Order", the official representatives of all turpitudes, religious, metaphysical, political, judicial, economic, and social, present and past, to brutalise and enslave the world; I am a fanatical lover of Liberty; considering it as the only medium in which can develop intelligence, dignity, and the happiness of man..."

Mikhail Bakunin

"Tell all the Truth but tell it slant-/Success in Circuit lies/Too bright for our infirm Delight/The Truth's superb surprise/As Lightning to the Children eased/With explanation kind/The Truth must dazzle gradually/Or every man be blind-"

Emily Dickinson

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Treasure trove of WTC litigation data...

Submitted by gretavo on Tue, 2013-08-06 18:10.

Did you know Mt. Sinai hospital received $300 MILLION in federal funds to study the health effects of 9/11, and that the Port Authority had to sue for access to the raw data? In fact it's not clear they even got it!

http://law.justia.com/lawsearch?query=World%20Trade%20Center%20Disaster&...

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Is the UK now a US colony, or intel whore?

Submitted by juandelacruz on Fri, 2013-08-02 04:51.

While this is probably no mystery to WTCD regulars, in this instance I just want to say to myself I knew it all along.
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NSA and GCHQ – too close for comfort

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/aug/01/nsa-gchq-cooperatio...

It makes sense for the US and UK to co-operate and share, but payments between the two agencies must mean influence

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Accused "9/11 Mastermind" Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Designs Vacuum Cleaner

Submitted by gretavo on Fri, 2013-07-12 20:30.

Just when you thought the official 9/11 story couldn't become more ridiculous...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/how-the-cia-untortured-...

How the CIA ‘un-tortured’ 9/11 bomber Khalid Sheikh Mohammed in strange tale of the al-Qa'ida vacuum cleaner

Revealed: The extraordinary extent of efforts to rehabilitate mastermind behind terror attacks

Rupert Cornwell
Friday, 12 July 2013

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NSA Spying on Social Media and Email

Submitted by juandelacruz on Mon, 2013-06-17 07:33.

Hi guys,

Any impact on your activities? I am closing my gmail account which impacts several forum memberships that I have including WTCD. I will sign up again when I have an alternative email.

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Edward Snowden.

Submitted by casseia on Mon, 2013-06-10 18:54.
An incredibly brave voice for truth. Proof that Generation Z is as selfless and courageous as any other generation.
12% (9 votes)
Wow. I wonder what his girlfriend is thinking.
3% (2 votes)
Possibly not exactly what he seems, but leaking genuine information of great import.
11% (8 votes)
Heir apparent to Bradley Manning, now that they're getting that wrapped up.
4% (3 votes)
100% manufactured hero, a direct conduit to Disinfo Central.
27% (20 votes)
Holy crap -- are you really that cynical and suspicious?
42% (31 votes)
Total votes: 73
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Israel's Rich Foreign Backers

Submitted by gretavo on Fri, 2013-06-07 11:27.

http://www.councilforthenationalinterest.org/news/israellobby/item/2822-...

Here's a guide to who the big donors are, how they made their fortunes and which organizations they fund.

Gustave Leven

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Alice Walker (The Color Purple) comes out for David Icke...

Submitted by casseia on Wed, 2013-05-22 19:24.

This is the kind of thing that makes my non-skeptical friends on Facebook just lose their shit...

Prize-winning author Alice Walker gives support to David Icke on Desert Island Discs

When asked which book she would take were she to be an isolated castaway, the author of The Color Purple chose Icke’s Human Race Get Off Your Knees

Liam O'Brien
The Independent (UK)
Sunday 19 May 2013

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A Picture is Worth 1000 Words

Submitted by gretavo on Mon, 2013-05-06 11:43.

Here's 2000:






From "Memory Remains" picture book from 9/11 Memorial...

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A piece of a landing gear is found at the site of the future 'Ground Zero Mosque', and...

Submitted by gretavo on Fri, 2013-04-26 23:35.
...human remains will be discovered and alleged to be the hijackers'.
7% (3 votes)
...Islamophobic hell breaks loose and we invade Syria.
7% (3 votes)
...9/11 skeptics are derided as loons by people saying "truthers claim no planes hit the buildings!"
16% (7 votes)
...Dzokhar Tsarnaev regains the ability to speak long enough to name three witches before OD'ing on pot brownies from his mom.
71% (32 votes)
Other (please specify in comments)
0% (0 votes)
Total votes: 45
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VK, "Russia's Facebook", Has Some Splainin' to Do.

Submitted by gretavo on Fri, 2013-04-19 12:43.

When I first found out the name of the suspect, I googled like everyone else and came upon this page: http://vk.com/id160300242 that is supposed to be a Russian facebook of sorts. Someone on Buzzfeed posted that early screenshot showing someone logged in as the suspect this morningt at 5:04 a.m.

Later I noticed the date of the suspect's last login changed to last night at 9 p.m. Explanations?

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WTCD Tops 10,000 Unique Visitors in March

Submitted by gretavo on Thu, 2013-04-18 18:02.

First time since September 2011, and only second time ever!

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Waco Texas Explosion

Submitted by juandelacruz on Thu, 2013-04-18 05:38.

New incident

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/18/us/mass-injuries-reported-in-texas-fer...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22195495

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/04/18/uk-usa-explosion-texas-idUKBRE9...

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Who will be blamed for the Marathon Bombings™?

Submitted by gretavo on Wed, 2013-04-17 14:59.
Al Qaeda
30% (12 votes)
Domestic right-wing nut
45% (18 votes)
Other Arab/Muslim
10% (4 votes)
Other domestic nut
10% (4 votes)
Other (specify in comments)
5% (2 votes)
Total votes: 40
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Before Ricin, there was Anthrax

Submitted by gretavo on Wed, 2013-04-17 00:35.

http://www.salon.com/2002/01/26/assaad/

Fort Detrick's anthrax mystery

Who tried to frame Dr. Ayaad Assaad, a former biowarfare researcher at the Army lab? Was it the same person responsible for last fall's anthrax mail terrorism?
By Laura Rozen

Topics: News

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True Faction (Truthaction.org) is No More?

Submitted by gretavo on Tue, 2013-04-16 18:34.

Their URL leads to a GoDaddy parking page, and their twitter feed has had no action for more than a year. What happened to Cosmos, Albanese, and the rest of the fake truthers there? DId they give up on 9/11 truth? On their "eleventh month of every year" campaign?

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Boston Marathon Bombing: Convenient Scapegoat Watch

Submitted by gretavo on Mon, 2013-04-15 22:40.

Two explosions rock the finish line at the Boston Marathon. The coverage is at once reminiscent of 9/11 and Oklahoma City. We are at the crucial point where we have just been informed by the media that authorities are questioning someone related to the bombings. As in OKC, it is reported that undetonated devices have been found. These, as in OKC, are supposed to be key to identifying the bad guys. Let's see if they are denied as soon as a Ryder truck is found.

No scapegoat yet.

Likely scapegoats: tax protestors? truthers? muslims?

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Did you vote on an ad submission to AE911's Operation Tip the Planet contest?

Submitted by gretavo on Thu, 2013-04-11 20:11.
Yes!
12% (4 votes)
No.
88% (30 votes)
Total votes: 34
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"The racism inherent at the heart of the 9-11 conspiracy movement..."

Submitted by casseia on Mon, 2013-04-08 22:10.

[I was almost surprised to see this ancient canard pop up again on an otherwise not-particularly-interesting Portland Indymedia thread about 9/11. What was most pleasing was the way it was quickly and efficiently dispatched by other users. Portland Indymedia has become a toxic place for discussions of 9/11 --- this thread, ironically, was a breath of fresh air.]

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2013/04/422707.shtml?discuss

Remember
08.Apr.2013 07:21
Garth

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AE911truth's Ad Contest Open for Voting!

Submitted by gretavo on Mon, 2013-04-01 19:46.

Vote for the best ad here: https://app.wizehive.com/voting/otp

WTCD is endorsing this one, btw... https://app.wizehive.com/voting/view/otp/13054/1185000/0

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Why Didn't the Insurers Challenge the 9/11 Lies?

Submitted by gretavo on Tue, 2013-03-26 17:08.

Saudi Arabia Behind Attacks, Insurers Tell Court: http://www.insuranceinsider.com/-1242713/26

They can't have assumed they would win a case against Saudi Arabia--my guess is they were otherwise compensated (perhaps simply by a rise in premiums after 9/11) and that this is just a way to make mo' money...

After doing a search for the listed companies I found this article that contains some interesting analysis of the effect of 9/11 on the insurers/reinsurers: http://opim.wharton.upenn.edu/risk/downloads/archive/arch257.pdf

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