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For all its problems with the insincere among its ranks, the real truth movement is the one peopled by the vast, honest majority who believe the events of 9/11 must be subjected to the closest scrutiny possible if we are to learn from this dark chapter in world history. This site is for every real "truther" out there.

 

"If telling the truth marginalizes you, then that is the place to be. After all, if enough people are willing to be marginalized, then before you know it, society has developed a different center. This is the politics of truth."

E. Martin Schotz


"I've had enough of someone else's propaganda... I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I'm for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole."

Malcolm X

"I am a passionate seeker after Truth and a not less passionate enemy of the malignant fictions used by the "Party of Order", the official representatives of all turpitudes, religious, metaphysical, political, judicial, economic, and social, present and past, to brutalise and enslave the world; I am a fanatical lover of Liberty; considering it as the only medium in which can develop intelligence, dignity, and the happiness of man..."

Mikhail Bakunin

"Tell all the Truth but tell it slant-/Success in Circuit lies/Too bright for our infirm Delight/The Truth's superb surprise/As Lightning to the Children eased/With explanation kind/The Truth must dazzle gradually/Or every man be blind-"

Emily Dickinson

gretavo's picture

A Philosophy for a Better Future

embrace your kinship with all living things.

give back to the world as much as you can, but at least as much as it gave you.

forgive ignorance and condemn deceit, and don't rush to judgement in making the distinction.

apply that principle first to yourself and then to others.

thoughts? additions? i'm hoping we can get some positive energy flowing--what say ye?

Lazlo Toth's picture

A long letter to Tahooey regarding history, terrorism, and the image of “Israel”

Hello Tahooey,
Thanks for your commentary and thoughts on a delicate and controversial subject. Israel, as a sixty year old political entity created under the shadows of British colonialism, has always been very concerned with hiding or softening the inconvenient truths of its genesis and modern history (America does this as well -- ask a Navajo), and in place of the truth, Israel likes to project, as a mask or cover, a crafted, criticism-deflecting, “innocent victim” image. Because the United States, since the end of the Second World War, has been Israel’s prime benefactor -- maintaining and protecting the historically misinformed perception of Israel and the Palestinian conflict as it is held in the American mind is of primary importance and grave concern to Israel; and I am using the term “American mind” here to indicate the general public perception within the continental, North American media audience.

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Major bombing threat to New York on Wednesday July 18 -- Please warn the American people

This is alittle after the fact, but this was posted on 911B and thought it was a very interesting read.
I read through all 26-27 threads and found some compelling facts.

Major bombing threat to New York on Wednesday July 18 -- Please warn the American people

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/bbs/message.php?page=1&messageid=41181...

I'd like to hear some of your thoughts on this. And if the warning is true, we should all expect to see an "event" Tues, 7-24 in NYC, which is tomarrow by my calender.

I really hope this is a hoax. But if it isnt, and a real event does happen on 7-24, this may be the event that justifies the Truth movement to the masses.

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A Personal Tale of Modern Orthodox Judaism

The author is a law professor at Harvard. His story is about the contradictions inherent in reconciling his orthodox education with his participation in the "real world".

It's an interesting read especially in light of Israel Shahak's much more critical work on Orthodox Judaism, Jewish History Jewish Religion - The Weight of Three Thousand Years.

It's nice to see this kind of soul-searching published, couched as it is in apologetics...

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Sie vergaßen die Tanzenisraelis und Herr Silverstein... dennoch ganz gut...

Bruce? Was denkest du??


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Truth in print ... ?

I once started a local newspaper and worked as its managing editor for 6 months. The interest and response to our new publication was surprising and encouraging. The experience has often made me think that a professionally produced Truth publication (on newsprint) might have an enormous impact because so many people have never had the opportunity to be exposed to the information that convinced us that something needs to be done.

This would be a monthly publication on small newsprint with 8 pages containing 10 to 15 articles of various lengths featuring stories chosen from online or newly written articles covering different aspects of the questions, facts, and controversies surrounding 9-11 and the individuals involved.

Ideally the publication would appear (and be) completely unbiased and present the facts objectively and leave conjecture up to the subjects of the articles.

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Tarpley on new war with Iran

Stuff I lifted from 9-11B

http://911blogger.com/node/10130

This writeup by Tarpley makes so much sense I wanted to share it here.

IMPEACH OR FACE A NEW ROUND OF SYNTHETIC TERROR THIS SUMMER TO KICK-START THE WAR IN IRAN
Only impeachment and Removal, or a General Strike, Will Stop the Next False Flag Attack

The greatest threat now is “a 9/11 occurring with a group of terrorists armed not with airline tickets and box cutters, but with a nuclear weapon in the middle of one of our own cities.”
- Dick Cheney on Face the Nation, CBS, April 15, 2007

By Webster G. Tarpley
July 21, 2007

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Disinformation, Deception, Misdirection and Division in 9/11 Truth

Because all kinds of conspiratorial imaginings can brew when one maintains silence on an issue, I would like to throw my two cents into the ring regarding various statements or beliefs expressed over at the truthaction.org forum during the big Casseia-Jon Gold showdown of yesterday. Gosh, it was just like being over at the old 9/11 Blogger when your computer’s inner circuitry could sense the passion and the heat certain topics or combos of people could invoke. I would usually move my cursor bar past these diversionary blow-ups as I would rather see or participate in an honest, informed debate as opposed to an all day, name-calling, nasty innuendo fest. Although a heated row in the center of any village will bring out the spectators nonetheless.

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The Carl Cameron Report on Israeli Espionage and 9/11

"ALL LINKS TO CARL CAMERON'S FOX NEWS STORY ON THE ISRAELI SPY RING HAVE BEEN REMOVED AT THE EXPRESS REQUEST OF FOX NEWS."

That's the latest at WhatReallyHappened... but... Fox News has apparently not asked You Tube to remove it? How bizarre...

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Congressman DeFazio (D-OR) "Maybe the people who think there's a conspiracy out there are right."

yeah, he's not talking about 9/11...or is he?

http://www.oregonlive.com/oregonian/stories/index.ssf?/base/news/1184896...

DeFazio asks, but he's denied access
Classified info - The congressman wanted to see government plans for after a terror attack

Friday, July 20, 2007
JEFF KOSSEFF
The Oregonian Staff

WASHINGTON -- Oregonians called Peter DeFazio's office, worried there was a conspiracy buried in the classified portion of a White House plan for operating the government after a terrorist attack.

As a member of the U.S. House on the Homeland Security Committee, DeFazio, D-Ore., is permitted to enter a secure "bubbleroom" in the Capitol and examine classified material. So he asked the White House to see the secret documents.

On Wednesday, DeFazio got his answer: DENIED.

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Cindy Sheehan Banned From DailyKos

That's right, the Kossacks are showing their true colors yet again! They seem to have taken offense at her challenging Nancy "America and Israel Now and Forever" Pelosi on her unwillingness to pursue impeachment.

Slowly but surely the truth about everything and everyone is coming out. Cindy reveals she really is 2 legit 2 quit, the Kossacks continue their purge. First 9/11 Truthers, now anti-War folks. The only thing that matters to the "progressive" Kos is electing corporate candidates who put D's next to their name. Look out MLK! Stand back, Howard Zinn! The revolution apparently will NOT be... well, revolutionary at all!

It's time for 9/11 Truth to support Cindy and encourage her to join our calls for truth!

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Just Like the Old Days -- Gold Accuses People of LYING About Him

I guess this is a bad habit rearing its head, but it's so tempting to argue with this guy.

truthaction forum

Annoymouse's picture

WeAreChange confronts Mccain

Found this at 911B incase you missed it.

Luke and the boys are doing an awesome job confronting these bastards.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3269080492376709459&hl=en

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Guns & Butter was the fist place that i heard 911 was an inside job in the radio back in 2002..

Guns & Butter
Wednesday, July 18th, 2007, 1:00pm

9/11, Canada and the New World Order

Featuring Dr. Kevin Barrett on "Beyond a Muslim Conspiracy Theory"; and leader of the Canadian Action Party, Connie Fogel, on "The Security and Prosperity Partnership and the North American Union" from the Vancouver 9/11 Truth Conference in June 2007.

KPFA 94.1 FM Berkeley 1pm PST, and streaming and archived at www.kpfa.org

www.gunsandbutter.net

side note, i have been banned for apt 911b.. i dont think that rep liked me telling him to fuck off..

Big_D's picture

9/11 Ripple Effect.

Ok, I gotta' admit, for the most part, I like it. What say you?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6847507648836588010

kate of the kiosk's picture

David Milliband...

so what should we make of this uppity character?

http://news.scotsman.com/politics.cfm?id=1105482007&format=print

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Required Reading – Dr. Paul Craig Roberts' “Carter’s Inconvenient Truths”

CARTER's INCONVENIENT TRUTHS

by Paul Craig Roberts

Counterpunch, Friday, January 12, 2007

Jimmy Carter, probably the most decent man to occupy the White House, received a lot of grief during his term in office, most of it undeserved. His latest book, “Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid” has brought him even more grief, none of it deserved.

My own appreciation of Jimmy Carter is new found. It began with his previous book, “Our Endangered Values,” in which Carter criticized the direction in which George W. Bush was taking America with his assaults on the Constitution and international law. His latest book, currently a best seller, shows that Carter has the courage to match his decency and commitment to peace in the Middle East.

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Born-again Al Qaeda Evangelizing in Iraq?

From today's Boston Globe, with my commentary...

Al Qaeda seen reborn as key threat
Report fuels more debate on Iraq war course

By Bryan Bender, Globe Staff | July 18, 2007

WASHINGTON -- The Al Qaeda terror network, responsible for the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacksn [not really, though], has reestablished a safe haven in Pakistan [eek, should have listened to Jon Gold!], retained its top leadership [Silverstein, Cheney, and Mossad still at the helm], and trained new operatives in [the holocaust formerly known as] Iraq -- and now poses [as] a "heightened threat" of another massive attack on the United States, according to the summary of a joint American intelligence assessment [and Michael Chertoff's tripe].

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It's not a gang. It's a club!

US: Top al-Qaida in Iraq Figure Captured

http://asia.news.yahoo.com/070718/ap/d8qevb680.html

The U.S. command said Wednesday the highest-ranking Iraqi in the leadership of al-Qaida in Iraq has been arrested, adding that information from him indicates the group's foreign-based leadership wields considerable influence over the >Iraqi chapter.

Khaled Abdul-Fattah Dawoud Mahmoud al-Mashhadani, also known as Abu Shahid, was captured in Mosul on July 4, said Brig. Gen. Kevin Bergner, a military spokesman.

"Al-Mashhadani is believed to be the most senior Iraqi in the al-Qaida in Iraq network," Bergner said. He said al-Mashhadani was a close associate of Abu Ayub al-Masri, the Egyptian-born headof al-Qaida in Iraq.

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