Staking a claim in the rush to narrate 9/11 Truth

casseia's picture

I had an idea today, while writing for school, because I need MORE things to do. /sarcasm

The Shill Game, the obscenely hyped Great LIHOP Hope for transmitting 9/11 Truth through fiction, is an abject failure. However, I do happen to think that fiction and especially allegory are good methods of planting ideas in people's heads. What would an EFFECTIVE 9/11 Truth novel be like? Or an anthology of 9/11 Truth short stories?

For a long time, I rejected the idea that 9/11 Truth should propose what I term a "counter-narrative" and instead merely focus on deconstructing the OCT narrative. Even when this was my opinion, however, I recognized that it flies in the face of the way we are constructed as thinking beings or, as I used to put it, human nature abhors a narrative vacuum. The facts are not enough for understanding -- we have a deep need for a story to hook all the facts up into a comprehensible whole.

Of course, we are operating without all the information we might need to produce the closest approximation of "the Truth" that might be written in narrative form. Our understanding is partial, though ever-increasing. I don't think this is an insurmountable obstacle to producing a powerful meme-delivery device, which is what a good piece of fiction could be.

As I suggested above, I think an allegory, whether closely attached to reality (as a roman a clef, for example) or only loosely moored but truthful nonetheless (e.g. 1984) is the way to go. The aim should be sparking re-examination of history in the mind of the reader, rather than attempting to write a definitive version of events.

Writers are already staking out 9/11 territory -- either from an OCT-bolstering perspective (I'm dimly recalling a New Yorker short story -- or was it a novel excerpt?) or a OCT subverting one (The Shell Game, as advertised.) I'm planning to give thought to some fictionalization -- and perhaps other people would like to join me, and we can compare notes.

Ideas for characters, settings, allegorical events, and so forth are most welcome in the comments space below.

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Harley Guy's picture

how about a story from the point of view of whoever

rigged the towers for demolition?

Keenan's picture

Great idea, and don't look now...

but did you hear about this:

Let It Happen On Purpose
LIHOP
LImited Hang Out Propaganda

Soon to be released as:

The 9/11 Official Story Version 2.0

Stay tuned for upcoming announcement

Secret negotiations have advanced to the final stage that will result in the most awesome unity proposal yet imaginable. We are witnessing the dawn of a new era in the field of reality matrixes.

A sneak preview of version 2.0 beta has included some fantastic new features. Here's only a few of the great new features to expect in the upcoming official release:

1) New evidence showing "Middle Eastern looking men" placing explosives in the WTC (obviously those evil muslim terrorists at it again, no doubt)

2) New images of the Pentagon attack that will finally put to rest all of those crazy conspiracy theories about the missing Boeing, like for REAL real this time!

3) Peak Oil (notice how expensive gasoline has been lately? Proof enough for me)

4) The concept of the ends justifying the means that will save us all from Peak Oil Armageddon

5) Was it Incompetence or Treason or Patriotism, or a combination of all 3? The epic court battle yet to come.

All these and more in the upcoming release! Stay tuned to your 9/11 'truth' leaders!

Harley Guy's picture

these are not the dancers you're looking for...

gasoline IS expensive--I should know. i've logged more miles on this great nation's highways and I know fuel is freedom, and freedom is precious to me.

i've been to the peak to the peak of the oil, and i've seen the valley of death below, and i say to you AT WHAT PRICE FREEDOM?

LONG LIVE THE MYTH MAKERS!

LONG LIVE THE RISK TAKERS!

AND MAY GOD BLESS THE UNITED BANKS OF AMERICA!

Keenan's picture

Here's a sketch of one of the suspects...

who planted explosives in the WTC. This sketch was graciously provided to us by an anonymous Mossad "you're enemy is our enemy" Agent. This one kind of looks like the prophet Muhammed. Notice the similarity to the one in the Danish cartoon. Not surprising, really, as those evil muslims all look alike.

gretavo's picture

KEENAN!

you forgot to MENTION THE SHILL GAME!!!

you are clearly NOT a real truther

i hereby revoke your license to truth

please check your bullhorn at the door on the way out.

gretavo's picture

i think you also forgot to close a tag...

damn keenan, you will stoop pretty low to discredit the truth movement won't you. an inside job, keenan? how dare you. how dare you. [inserts cigar]

Keenan's picture

fixed...

And, I wouldn't worry too much about a bunch of yahoos running around shouting Inside Job! Inside Job! Without any hard physical evidence to prove it, it's not likely to go anywhere dangerous. You can argue that it was treason, incompetence, patriotism, whatever, or a combination thereof, but who's to really know why they were looking the other way when they let those evil bastard muslims through? Remember, we have bigger things to worry about anyway, like Peak Oil Armageddon.

Oh, and are you sure you're my handler? I thought it was casssia. Or was it Larry? I'll have to look at my check stub again...

gretavo's picture

the L I mited HangOut Posse

is not part of the real truth movement

 ®™

[RTM OFFICIAL SEAL OF TRUTH]

juandelacruz's picture

You guys are going to

You guys are going to confuse the real shills. Don't make it too hard for them.

gretavo's picture

part of the narration...

New York City 9/11 Ballot Initiative: Any objections, please voice them NOW!

OK Diane, I'll bite.  Ahem.  I object to bogus "citizens commissions" being set up by known shills and Johnny come latelys.  Your commissioners are as suspect as your motives.  This is not what we need.  What we need is MORE mass awareness so that the people will hold their government accountable for doing the job itself and doing it properly.  If a commission proclaims LIHOP in the woods and no one logs in to read about it, does it make a sound?  Why do I get the feeling that this is just another ploy, a set-up, a scheme?

I object most strenuously, Diane.  To you AND your ballot initiative.

Keenan's picture

THIS JUST IN! Crucial part of Hijacker Narrative provided..

by none other than VisibleShilly 9-11 'truth' leader Nicholas!

Hijackers were for REAL!
Also, skepticism of WTC demolition claims still warranted

Dateline TrueFaction January 23, 2008 8:50am GMT

In a new thread he posted on TrueFaction If I were an insider orchestrating a 9/11... Nicholas fills in for us the crucial details of just how the hijacking occured on 9/11, and you're never going to believe what he has figured out!

1) The "al-Qaeda Islamofundamentalist terror network" really exists!

2) If he were an insider orchestrating a 9/11, he'd look for "real" patsies, i.e. people who either already had the idea of striking at the American empire and wanted to do it, as martyrs or otherwise, or else who could be recruited by a cut-out organization that I was actually running. He also reminds us that this is how it usually works in the real world when patsies are used. So, the new definition of a patsy is someone who REALLY COMMITS THE CRIME...that they are then falsely accused...um...er...made to look like they...well, anyway, they were patsies who REALLY DID HIJACK THE PLANES. DUH.

3) He points out again for us the immense damage people like David Ray Griffen are doing to the movement by not acknowledging the obvious: That the "weak" claims of the "living hijackers" originally reported on the BBC has already been conclusively debunked on 911myths.com.

He asks a pointed question:
I would make use of the al-Qaeda Islamofundamentalist terror network that the CIA and Saudis had, after all, spent so many dollars to create and maintain. Wouldn't you?
Well...wouldn't you? Yea, you...YOU sitting there reading this! WOULDN'T YOU? C'mon now, be reasonable.

He delivers the Coup de grâce at the end of his masterpiece by pointing out that:
How can we think the same group that can arrange for the demolition of the WTC (if you believe that)
[again reminding us that not everyone is a rabid, dogmatic, conspiracy theorist who insists that the WTC was demolished]
or the wargames of 9/11 or the cover-up that followed can't also arrange to have real men who really believe in their cause to die as the patsies?

Wow. I don't know about you, but that pretty much wraps it up for me. Who could argue with that? Who WOULD argue with that? WHO? Yea, you know what kind of WHO, don't you?



Well, that should have wrapped it up for everyone, but then comes along that pesky chrisc to point out that, while totally agreeing with Nicholas that DRG has lost all credibility, there's still reason to hold on to just a little bit of skepticism if only because:

I don't know about "real men who really believe in their cause" -- I agree that this would seem to be the sensible way for them to organise things but what about the drugs angle that people like Peter Dale Scott have highlighted?

Also consider all the bogus "foiled" terror plots -- it appears that the spooks are unable to find and organise competent fanatics for their fabricated terror scares, why should this have been any different on 9/11?

In comes Arabesque, the movement's annointed expert on dis/misinformation, as well as the history of the use of patsies. This most decorated expert from on high points out that:
I agree[with Nicholas], and this is exactly how patsies are controlled to do what is required. They are given a suggestion to do something and then it is made sure they "succeed".

Well, there you have it.

Arabesque also chimes in regarding the carelessness of DRG in spreading misinformation far and wide. He closes by linking to Photocopies of the actual flight manifests have the "hijacker" names on them.



Jessica..er...JohnA eventually chimes in and in a revelation eerily reminiscent of Apt911B a while back in which Jon Gold and John A realized that they shared the same brain, points out that:
damn Nicholas - we just bascially wrote the same post. It is frightening to think that i think like you

gretavo's picture

the redefinition of shill

someone not to be trusted by virtue of their posession of a bill of goods that they would have you purchase.

Annoymouse's picture

What do you all think of this?

I've been proposing a consensus position focusing on the intervening criminal act of destroying the Twin Towers, since this caused most of the deaths and also the injuries to rescuers. This would remove conflict over various controversial issues, including plane at the Penatgon, planes at the WTC, Muslim hijackers, Saudi/Pakistani involvement, and yes, Israeli involvement.

http://www.911blogger.com/node/13498#comment-175423

http://www.911blogger.com/node/13498#comment-175412

The Shell Game, of course, rendered itself irrelevant by not discussing the destruction of the Twin Towers.

From your perspective, the disadvantage of not talking about Israel is that there would not be talk about the unsubstantiated claims of Muslim hijackers. Of course people would continue discussions of whatever they want---I'm just proposing a strong consensus focus on this central criminal act, the title of your blog.

Annoymouse's picture

Hi Mouse...

I was not able to get onto 911Blogger at this time so I did not read the links. But I do see what you are saying and I have been advocating this for years now.

Let's start with the scene of the crime like any other criminal investigation and see where that takes us.

I will try your links a bit later.

Thanks.

gretavo's picture

welcome to wtcdemolition.com :)

sure, we love our jewmoonhoax as much as the next conspiracy kooks, but we are first and foremost advocating for a real investigation into the demolition of the world trade center. i registered this domain as a kind of statement when it seemed clear that the "official movement" was not going to place it at the top of their priority, even though it IS, as you point out the site of the most murders, as well as the scene of the crime for the most part.

but you're going to run into the problem that I've had, which is that when you look at 9/11 from a point of view favoring the issue of the towers'collapses (which some pretenders to trutherhood still claim to doubt) you notice that the story is one featuring prominent Zionists (not just people who believe that Israel has a right to exist--wealthy and politically connected fund-raisers for Zionist causes with links to the foreign country that has sent America more than a few spies.

and whether or not you notice this, it is the exact reason why some people prefer focusing on so-called "warnings" or "foreknowledge" as if it mattered who knew what about the planes when the planes did not bring the buildings down. Bad what THEY did, those evil Bush/Cheney people, whether it was let leak the dates of our war game exercises involving false radar injects for simulated hijacking scenarios.

Hmmmm... does seem so... OBVIOUS no? And every individual has plausible deniability, since they only had to know what mattered to completing their part. So that many people focused on may well have the airtight alibi of REALLY NOT HAVING KNOWN exactly what was going to happen. But someone somewhere knew the entire plan, of course, 9/11 didn't "just happen" like "shit happens"--someone made this shit happen by demolishing two buildings on top of hundreds of innocent people.

Those who are complicit in one part of course may be technically innocent, but they know that their role will be suspected, so they bend over backwards to please those who must be pleased to keep that information from becoming general knowledge.

Seeking the truth about 9/11 means seeking to know 9/11 entirely. No truther worth her salt is going to claim to believe anything else. Part of understanding 9/11 means understanding how people could have done something like it. And there exists no doubt the gamut of reasons for which people decided to play a role--from actual ignorance of their role to sheer psycopathy. The citizens of America must cast a wide enough net to not miss anything important, but this doesn't mean not setting aside certain fish for special scrutiny. It is patterns that emerge when suspects begin to be outed that provide us our best chance of determining all who should be held accountable.

If focusing on the political and business associations of key players in the life and death of the twin towers is going to be frowned on, then these patterns will not become known by those who deserve them become known--the real victimsâ„¢ of 9/11--those who actually were killed and who did not fake their deaths to collect from one fund or another.

I told y'all I have adopted any and every friendless/family-less person who died on 9/11, and intend to seek the truth about 9/11 for them--that is to say intelligently idefatigably, but above all honestly. A movement dedicated to seeking truth must hold honesty above all other virtues, but especially above unity.

gretavo's picture

the planters of the explosives

whoever they may be, are the only ones who can't claim plausible deniability (they of all people can't say they didn't know what was going to happen as a result of their work), but also the least likely to be identified. identifying them should not be abandoned of course. but a way must be found to compel those who SHOULD have known what was going on (i.e. Lucky Larry) to start cooperating first by ceasing to express the disingenuous belief that their property was destroyed by plane damage and burning jet fuel.

casseia's picture

Perhaps you would like to move

these comments over to the special blog I have made for them?

gretavo's picture

i kinda think they should stay here...

just to show that they split off from that blog post, or i suppose that a note could be left about the move, or, I dunno... i'm tired of blog tinkering... :)