Sibel to Spill? Uhhh, Maybe--But What Will it Be?

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Mind you, I have no dog in the fight between the Republican Jean Schmidt and Mr. Krikorian, the Armenian-American candidate who allegedly libelled her when he said she took "blood money" from Turkey.  Whatever racket the Turks have going on I tend to think it pales next to the same kind of racket AIPAC runs.  So our first point--is Sibel and the fake truthers' focus on Turkey a way of drawing attention away from AIPAC?  The fact is that the Zionist and Armenian lobby have a similar m.o., which is to exploit past so-called "genocides" for present political (and financial) gain.  AIPAC and the Armenians also both consider Turkey an enemy.  Armenians for obvious reasons, and AIPAC because Turkey (along with Iran) is a major roadblock to Israeli hegemony in the region.  Here's an aside...

Armenians, Cubans, and AIPAC

22 Oct 2007 09:13 am

A way to think about the Walt-Mearsheimer book and related controversies:

  • To the (large) extent that the Armenian-American lobby ginned up support for a pointless and destructive resolution condemning sins of the Ottoman Empire, it advanced its own causes at the expense of larger American interests. The people who did this are mainly from one ethnic group (Armenian-American) and of one religion (Christian, notably Armenian Apostolic or Armenian Orthodox).
  • To the (huge and obvious) extent that the Cuban-American lobby has muscled the United States into its small-minded and punitive embargo of Castro's Cuba these last 45 years, it has advanced its own causes at the expense of larger American interests. The people who have done this are mainly from one ethnic group (Cuban-American) and of one religion (Christian, notably Roman Catholic).
  • To the (ongoing) extent that AIPAC -- the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, which calls itself "America's Pro-Israel Lobby" -- is trying to legitimize a military showdown between the United States and Iran, it is advancing its own causes at the expense of larger American interests. The people who are doing this are not from one ethnic group in the conventional sense but are mainly of one religion (Jewish).


To observe these patterns, and warn against them (including the disastrous consequences of attacking Iran), is not to be anti-Armenian, anti-Orthodox, anti-Cuban, anti-Catholic, or anti-Semitic. Nor is it to deny that members of each lobby claim, and probably believe, that what they're recommending is best for America too. But in these cases they're wrong. And noting these groups' power and potential to distort policy mainly means recognizing that James Madison's warnings about the invidious effects of "faction"* apply beyond the 18th century in which he wrote.

* Federalist 10: "By a faction, I understand a number of citizens, whether amounting to a majority or a minority of the whole, who are united and actuated by some common impulse of passion, or of interest, adversed to the rights of other citizens, or to the permanent and aggregate interests of the community."


1. The Government of Turkey had illegally infiltrated and influenced various U.S. government institutions and officials, including the Department of State, the Department of Defense and individual members of the United States Congress

2. The Government of Turkey had engaged in practices and policies that were inimical to American interests and had in fact resulted in both the direct and indirect loss of American lives

3. Turkish American cultural and business groups conduct operations with direct and indirect support from the Government of Turkey

Replace Turkey above with Israel and you pretty much have an accurate account that nonetheless those pointing it out get accused of alleging "a vast Jewish conspiracy".  Now when was the last time Obama went to the Turkish lobby making promises and kissy faces?  Again, not saying that the Turkish lobby doesn't engage in shenanigans, or that their government doesn't.  They probably do.  But given the context here, does anyone seriously believe that Sibel's revelations are going to get at the real truth about 9/11?  And if not, why do people like Jon Gold continue to treat her like some kind of gagged Messiah?