Ms. van Auken, Are You REALLY Looking for Justice for Your Late Husband?

How the 9/11 Commission Got it Wrong - an Introduction to 9/11 Skepticism on YouTube
The above story from 911Blogger includes links to a series of 25 YouTube videos purporting to be an introduction to 9/11 skepticism. I was quite disappointed to have to listen through a long statement by professional victim's family member "Jersey Girl" Lorie van Auken whose husband was allegedly killed when the north tower was demolished.
LVA does not in fact mention or seem to care about the fact that because her husband was alive after the plane hit his building, he was in fact not killed by terrorists hypothetically hijacking planes, but by the demolition of his building while he was (allegedly) inside.
But LVA does not talk about what made the building collapse--she spends her entire statement before the world talking about ignored warnings of terrorist attacks by arab muslims.
What's wrong with this picture? What's wrong with this victim's family member?
Why the mutual masturbation support network between the "Jersey Girls", the Sibel Edmonds traveling show, and fake truthers like Jon Gold?
EDIT: be sure to see my comment below http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/856#comment-8585

I really...
Don't even know what to say to you. This is the most disgusting blog I think I've ever seen on an alleged "9/11 Truth" site. Insult me ALL you want, but lay off of the family members. HOW DARE YOU? I don't believe in a God, but if I did, I would HOPE to that God that you NEVER experience what these people have gone through. They know 1000x more about 9/11 than you will EVER hope to. I hope that you really reflect on what it is you think you're doing because this is not helping, and this is simply not right.
Jon Gold
Do ya' think...
that Ms. van Auken would mention all those perps caught on & around 9/11 if they were 'radical islamofascists' instead of MOSSAD?
Sorry if you can't handle this line of questioning (Just more feigned outrage?), Jon. Someone has to speak for the MILLIONS, and growing, of innocent people in Palestine, Iraq & Afghanistan that have been victimized for years by the real 9/11 perps, and your (and the rest of the controlled truth movement.) silence is deafening.
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[EDIT/CENSOR/WHATEVER]
To posterity: Here was a picture (a flattering one I should add,) of a relatively well known 9/11 activist with a less flattering caption. I have made a rare decision to remove a valued user's handiwork because I'd really rather not inflame the passions that abound around certain issues of contention. Sorry Larry Horse, i hated to do it, man... :)
no big deal
it was far too flattering a picture anyway, and the caption was just a repeat of what's been said all over the web many times before (nobody likes to beat a dead horse, right?). anyhoo, good work on amending the mission statement.
thanks
ok cool. is everyone else loving the error freeness? i sure as free am!!
Yea!
Who was the tech-savvy messiah who cured our beloved mainframe of its chronic hiccups? Kudos to him/her!
omg kate--it's your kiosk!
at 1:14 or thereabouts--isn't it? :)
wassup
i never saw the vid. something pertaining to my kiosk? my old avatar? what?
i think it was...
...something that looked like your old avatar...
Jon you have cynically used
Jon you have cynically used the family members and I'm sick of seeing it. The manner in which you use them is exactly what I would expect from cointel. You have prominently placed yourself around them and rather than sticking to facts and examining potential motives you divert attention from those things. "They know 1000x more about 9/11 than you will EVER hope to." See this is an emotional argument. There is no substance to it. None. Nada. Zero. That's right, Zilch. You are using their position as family members of victims to attack other people who are focused on facts like Jerome Hauer's involvement in seeding the notion that Bin Laden committed the act. What is not right is pairing yourself with emotional stimuli (victim's family members) and attacking others who are asking APPROPRIATE QUESTIONS regarding Israel's involvement.
BTW, where did you learn to use operant and classical conditioning? I KNOW conditioning and persuasion techniques when I see them.
funny thing is.....
LVA seems to actually have come around a little bit, as evidenced by her words in this much more recent appearance:
This is the first time I've heard her mention Silverstein, and building 7, and it garnered her biggest round of applause. She also questions the cell phone calls from the planes on 9/11, which implicitly questions the official hijacker narrative, which is good. It's nice to see Jon Gold be so defensive of someone who would seem to disagree with him on so much (Jon believes that Arab muslim hijackers did in fact hijack all the planes that morning, including AA77) But hey, that's how he gets people like Diane the New York Activist to cite him as some kind of well-regarded authority in the movement when he really only knows a lot about Indian allegations of Pakistani involvement in sending emergency pork chop moneygrams to the hijackers who really hijacked planes that morning... Of course I expect about now that JG will be doing some Steve Altenesque "backpeddling" (which is either Alten's way of spelling backpedaling, or involves selling something back to someone...)
Yes, hi, I'd like to return this victim family supporting LIHOP limited hangout shill costume...
Sir, it's been worn--a LOT by the looks of it.
Oh, uh, it's broken in, yes.
Fine... well, I'll see what else we have in, um... this size... let's see, here's a demolition skeptic in a western union uniform...
Perfect, I'll take it!
Hang on, it comes with some pork chops...
Even better.
You're a riot, man!
:D
And as to you, Jon: Considering you were one of the first to doubt the official 9/11 narrative, you haven't come 'round much since then, huh? I'm usually willing to give people the benefit of doubt, but in your case, it would require a giant leap of faith to assume you still couldn't put 2 and 2 together after all those years that you spent "fighting" for "justice". Now, please be a good puppy and get back to your circle jerk -- I heard Jess is desperately missing half her brain.
Jon Gold Libels Gretavo
If anyone can find any instance of me accusing Lorie Van Auken of being a "fake family member" please let me know!
Typical.
So is this why we haven't heard much from LeftWright for a couple days? May be we shouldn't be surprised if his moderator status has been revoked.
I saw LW logged in yesterday
I saw LW logged in yesterday if not this morning (my time). I appreciate his effort to mend the fence but I just don't think he will achieve much because he is not the one calling the shots over there. I didn't bother to have my 911b account reinstated because of this expectation.
Logged on yes
Logged on but awful quiet... I'm still waiting to find out if there's an official reason I was banned.
And now I'd love to know how it makes LW feel for JG to tell him that his behavior is disgraceful, when anyone can see that all he's doing is communicating with people. What's so disgraceful about that? Does LW just have to take that? What kind of authority does he have, who really holds the reins over there? Will LW himself soon join our merry "banned"?
Is it her fault
RT Dude your a little harsh on LVA. I could give a shit about Fools Gold. People only know what they percieve. LVA perception is that she lost her husband and he aint coming back. Why? I bet 85% of 911 truth thinks more on the line of Alex Jones (Military Industrial Complex, Lucifarians Buildifurburgers Etc.) That sucks. Is LVA purposely mis leading 911 truth? Is she being manuplated by the Sibel Edmonds traveling show, and fake truthers like Jon Gold.
I dont think so, her heart is in the right place. She just not doing it like we would. Is it her fault?
you could be right
i was thinking it could also be that because we only ever hear about her from Gold or the MSM that we get a very LIHOPPY picture of her. That's why I posted the more recent speech, because she is much more inline with mainstream truthing in it, and I was impressed and not a little surprised to hear her mention building 7 and Silverstein. my main point is WE DON'T KNOW, so we must be skeptical, perhaps to a fault.