Bin Laden is Dead on MSM

Just watched Obama on the teevee.

are all over it...getting a little testy out there

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/8487340/Osama...

Just to be clear, I think this is political propaganda rather than the honest result of a decade long manhunt and eventual assassination.

I expect this is just the start of the next stage in this far reaching charade.

Bin Laden did not cause WTC7 to collapse at free fall speed. Who planted those demolition charges? Who is using Bin Laden as the patsy?

At at peak time when many newly curious may be looking for information on 911, Blogger choses instead to jref the aspect ratio of various alledged Bin Laden videos (promoting dissagreement on irrelevant minutiae), whilst undermining DRG for claiming Bin Laden was dead, whilst promoting the Atta transfer from the ISI, and Snowcrash even mourns the abscence their (now remarkably 'prescient' leader) Mr Gold !

http://911blogger.com/news/2011-05-01/sources-al-qaida-head-bin-laden-de...

After a month or two of more "this is not the CD Movement" noise ,It looks like the Lihop takeover is now complete, and just in the nick time! -as the newly curious will turn away from the site unimpressed with 911 truth, having learned nothing about the more relevant and conclusive CD evidence.

U.S. overhauls story of bin Laden's death

Disclosures that Osama bin Laden was unarmed and didn't hide behind human shields put the Obama administration on the defensive, while new details depict a mission launched amid far greater political and operational uncertainty than had been revealed.

By Greg Miller and Joby Warrick

The Washington Post

WASHINGTON — The White House retreated Tuesday from its most provocative assertions about the predawn operation to kill Osama bin Laden, acknowledging the al-Qaida leader was neither armed nor hiding behind a female "human shield" when U.S. commandos fatally shot him.

The disclosures put the Obama administration on the defensive about whether it had exaggerated elements of earlier accounts for propaganda gain. At the same time, additional details surfaced that depict a mission launched amid far greater political and operational uncertainty than had been revealed.

CIA Director Leon Panetta, who supervised the operation, said U.S. intelligence agencies never had photographs or other proof that bin Laden was living at the targeted compound in Pakistan. Panetta told Time magazine that analysts were only 60 to 80 percent confident bin Laden would be found.

"We never had direct evidence that he in fact had ever been there or was located there," Panetta told "PBS NewsHour." "The reality was that we could have gone in there and not found bin Laden at all."

President Obama nevertheless approved the operation, Panetta and other U.S. officials said, because there was little chance of obtaining more definitive intelligence on bin Laden's location, which had amounted to a guessing game for the better part of 10 years.

U.S. commandos carried out not only bin Laden's body but also a cache of computers and other material found at the compound, "more than we were expecting to find," said a U.S. intelligence official, who like others discussed operational details on the condition of anonymity.

"There's written material, pictures — there's all kinds of stuff," the official said. The material, portions of which appear to have been bin Laden's personal property, were being shipped to CIA headquarters in Virginia for analysis. Some digital files were transmitted electronically.

The backpedaling on the narrative of the operation created an awkward moment for the Obama administration in what otherwise has been an overwhelmingly positive week. Rep. Mike Rogers, R-Mich., chairman of the House intelligence committee, chided the White House for appearing to exploit bin Laden's demise.

"I think we can get in trouble if people try to misuse this for political or propaganda gains," Rogers said. "I don't think that's going to be helpful at the end of the day."

White House spokesman Jay Carney attributed the missteps to the administration's "great haste" in trying to share details even while operational updates were pouring in. He and other officials stressed that the White House corrected the inaccuracies voluntarily as the quality of information improved.

Other officials attributed some of the confusion to conflicting information in field reports assembled by military officials still trying to document details of a complex, chaotic operation that unfolded in 40 minutes in the Pakistani garrison city of Abbottabad.

The account Carney presented differed in key respects from one that White House counterterrorism adviser John Brennan provided the previous day. Brennan spoke mockingly of bin Laden's behavior, saying the al-Qaida leader had cowered behind his wife in the lavish hideout before being shot in an intense gunfire exchange.

"He was engaged in a firefight with those that entered," Brennan said, adding bin Laden had been "hiding behind women who were put in front of him as a shield."

Brennan said it was unclear whether bin Laden actually had fired a weapon. "Whether or not he got off any rounds, I, quite frankly, don't know," he said. He also said it was possible the woman in the line of fire, "presumed to be his wife," may have been acting of her own will.

Carney made major changes to that account, saying bin Laden's wife had "rushed the U.S. assaulter and was shot in the leg but not killed. Bin Laden was then shot and killed. He was not armed."

Carney and others defended the administration's assertion that the team of 25 Navy SEALs and other operatives was prepared to take bin Laden alive. "He resisted the U.S. personnel," Carney said. Pressed how he did so without a weapon, Carney said "resistance does not require a firearm."

Panetta said rules of engagement would have required U.S. forces to take bin Laden into custody if he had "thrown up his hands, surrendered and didn't appear to be representing any kind of threat."

But, he said, "I don't think he had a lot of time to say anything," adding that when the lead Navy SEAL reached the third-floor unit where bin Laden was located, "there were some threatening moves that were made ... and that's the reason they fired."

Another U.S. official said the assault force was told to accept a surrender only if it was certain that he didn't have a bomb hidden under his clothing and posed no other danger.

Added a senior congressional aide briefed on the rules of engagement: "He would have had to have been naked for them to allow him to surrender."

A U.S. official briefed on the raid said the first SEAL to confront bin Laden perceived a hostile intent. "He was not lying on the floor or trying to surrender," the official said. "He was resisting."

Carney declined to elaborate on the nature of bin Laden's resistance, and referred reporters to the Defense Department. Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell said officials would not provide further details.

Before encountering bin Laden, U.S. commandos fatally shot two of his protectors on the ground floor, as well as a woman caught "in crossfire," Carney said. Brennan had said the woman killed in the operation was believed to be bin Laden's wife and had served as a shield.

Brennan's comments were part of a broader effort to portray the al-Qaida leader as a cowardly figure at the culmination of a decadelong manhunt led by the CIA.

"Here is bin Laden, who has been calling for these attacks, living in this million-dollar-plus compound, living in an area that is far removed from the front, hiding behind women who were put in front of him as a shield," Brennan said Monday. "I think it really just speaks to just how false his narrative has been over the years."

Bin Laden's wife, who identified the al-Qaida leader's body after the raid, has been treated for injuries and is in the custody of Pakistan's intelligence service. A U.S. official said she told Pakistani authorities that bin Laden had lived in the complex, at least part of the time, since it was built in 2005. The official said the United States' request for access to the woman has been denied.

The CIA became suspicious that the heavily fortified complex might house bin Laden after discovering it was the residence of a courier with close ties to him.

U.S. spy satellites scrutinized the site for months but were unable to capture an image of bin Laden. At one point, Panetta told PBS, "we noticed an individual who was pacing in the courtyard who at least had some of the appearances" of the al-Qaida chief. "But we were never able to verify that in fact it was him."

In early fall, the CIA called the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA) to help pinpoint the compound's location. Using satellite images, information from sources and transcripts of intercepted phone calls, the NGA produced imagery analysis that described in detail the compound's dimensions, features and even the "pattern of life" behavior of its residents, a senior NGA analyst said.

Yet, confusion remains over the identities of some occupants of the compound, home to a dozen or more women and children.

U.S. officials believe at least two of the women were bin Laden's wives and that he had fathered several of the children, but their names and ages were not immediately known. Bin Laden is believed to have taken at least four wives and fathered at least 11 children. Whether his family expanded further while in hiding in Pakistan was not immediately clear.

Washington Post reporters Ellen Nakashima and Craig Whitlock and staff researcher Julie Tate contributed to this report. Information from the Tribune Washington bureau also is included.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2014951056_osama04.htm...

I wonder if they will retract the part where the person they shot was actually Bin Laden.

Here's an article putting the credit for the operation with CIA Dir. Paneta and VP Clinton.

http://socyberty.com/issues/white-house-insider-obama-hesitated-panetta-...

Entertaining fiction.

Although video or pictures may emerge to prove conspiracy theorists 'nutjobs' , there seems to be a strong element of the 'Big Lie' in play here.

As yet, without any evidence to verify the US hit, MSM went into overdrive for 48 hours promoting islamofascism, crowds cheered, family members found closure, heads of state endorsed the news , and 10 of the top people in US gov, all watched TV together,Pakistani & US officials spat about who can be trusted in the verified fight against terrorism.
They can't all be lying can they?

Seems like with all this 'acceptance' and under cover of preventing insensitivity or martyrdom, they will not be releasing the 'evidence' they dont have, (after stuggling with the decision ad nauseum).

It reminds me of the debate/song & dance about holding trials in NYC,bluffing that they have the evidence and due process to win convictions under the law, but after extensive complaints and fear of attacks,their 'fair trial' plans were necessarily forced back into a kangaroo court military trial behind closed doors.

Seems to me we just got hit by a condiderable booster jab for the official myth, and evidence had nothing to do with any of it ever.

With all the backtracking and adjustments to the story, the appearance & distribution of the fake photo amongst politicians etc as highlighted by willy Loman here.

http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2011/05/05/bin-laden-distraction-updates...

I am begining to wonder how such a polished PR Coup for Obama and the official myth has been so ineptly handled.

Sure, it could be distraction, or PR incompetance, but..

It is almost as if they are playing big lie poker,following past patterns of the big lie riddled with problems but at the same time showing the bluff, and waiting to be called to devestating effect -maybe along with the smashing of the nanothermite honeypot at the same time.