Christopher Bollyn Jumps the Shark

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Just found this entry from Dec. 25, 2010 after a routine googling... Bollyn apparently took issue with my response to his latest essay and then... well, judge for yourself.  He seems to have done a bit of "research" that puts him on a level in terms of journalistic acumen with one Col. Jenny Sparks, who also made use of the bogus rants about yours truly dating from my antiwar activist days.  I've removed any identifying info because I don't particularly care to make any stalkers' lives easier, just posting for posterity.  I like how he sticks up for Steven "Glenn Beck is a truther" Jones' nanothermite honeypot--it looks like word has gone out to the fake truth brigade to circle the wagons!

 

Who Destroyed the 9/11 Evidence?

Updated December 25, 2010

During the past few months I have been researching the Rothschild/Mossad network behind the criminal destruction of the steel from the World Trade Center.  I have found that the network that arranged for the destruction of the steel - critical evidence from the crime scene - was actually organized by Israel's Mossad and their Zionist agents, the real culprits behind the false-flag terrorism that changed the world.  This article will be the final and conclusive chapter of my book, Solving 9/11 - The Deception that Changed the World

On Saturday, December 18, I discussed my research about the destruction of the steel of the World Trade Center with Kevin Barrett on his radio show.  The following day, a blogger called "Gretavo" posted the following comment on his website, WTCDemolition.com:

some of what smells fishy to me...
Submitted by gretavo on Sun, 2010-12-19 11:21.

Christopher Bollyn re-appears with very convoluted series of connections that he claims prove a Mossad connection to the destruction of steel. And also to "military applications of thin coatings" -- as if painted on nanothermite were conclusively proven to have been used.

Note: Who is Gretavo Verdadero? is a question that has been taken up by others.  Why would a person interested in 9/11 truth use an utterly fake name that means "greatest truther" in Spanish?  Gretavo is evidently XXXXXXXXX, a Puerto Rican whose father, XXXXXXX, works for the U.S. State Department and who has served in numerous high-level positions representing the U.S. government in Nicaragua, Portugal, Mexico, etc., according to this article in the XXXXXXXXX.


XXXXXXXXXXX, a.k.a. "Gretavo Verdadero", has written on Kevin Barrett's site mujca.com in support of XXXXXXXXXX

In 2004, a XXXXXX suggested that XXXXXXX worked undercover for the C.I.A. at Harvard: 

Posted by: Rebel at Sep 27, 2004 20:04

If I remember clearly, XXXXXXXX was raised in US Embassies in Columbia, Brazil and Nicaragua where he had much contact with and was protected by the CIA.

I also seem to remember XXXXXXX filming activists in Cambridge, MA and providing the film to the very operation the article is about: KOBE. That film was used to harass activists, including DeVoy.

XXXXXXX's father currently works in the US Embassy in Nicaragua (Consul General). Evidence supports the belief that he works for the CIA undercover at Harvard University."

XXXXXXXX was the webmaster of KOBE, an anti-Muslim website.  Reportedly, "XXXXXXXX of KOBE infiltrated an anarchist group in Harvard Square and assisted authorities in attempting to frame Boston activists in various crimes.  Pretending to be a member of the anarchist group, he took advantage of their trust to videotape them and then provide doctored photos to hate organizations for the purposes of harassment and defamation."

If the Israeli Mossad connections to the destruction of the steel from the World Trade Center sound convoluted it is only because I have not been clear enough in my explanations.  (Gretavo apparently also fails to understand the very clear evidence presented in Dr. Steven E. Jones' scientific paper on the discovery of super-Thermite in the dust of the World Trade Center.)  The following two points are the basis of the Mossad connection to the destruction of the steel from the World Trade Center:

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gretavo's picture

for the record...

I have never called myself Gretavo Verdadero. Gretavo has always been plain Gretavo (which incidentally does not, as Bollyn claims, mean 'greatest' or anything else in spanish--it is one example of how my real name has been butchered on a mailing label.) Back when I used to post on 911Blogger as Real Truther my signature included a translation of 'real truther' in spanish--Verdadero Verdadero (it repeats because verdadero means 'real' and 'true' but it is also how one would form the word 'truther' which, as in english does not exist in spanish). It was my online stalker (who called himself Steven DeVoy) who apparently got mixed up when he referred to my alias as 'Gretavo Verdadero'. I figure my "friends" in the truth movement would have gotten the name right... In any case, this is the final nail in the coffin for Bollyn's credibility as far as I'm concerned. Now I can go back and look at everything he's written/done comfortable in my judgment that he is insincere.

Remember: "the best way to harm a cause is to defend it deliberately with faulty arguments."

Thanks, Nietzsche, and thanks Bollyn!

gretavo's picture

in addition to being...

...a racist.

Chris's picture

Which is likely why he was

Which is likely why he was chosen to be one of the first to confront the facts about Israeli involvement in 9/11. What better way to repel both fellow researchers/activists and outsiders alike from going down the correct path than by having a racist lead the charge down that path? Nobody wants to follow a guy like that, even if his conclusions are correct(his conclusions about who was involved in 9/11,not his racist conclusions on mixed marriage etc.)

casseia's picture

Back when this information came up the first time...

I dug around in it to satisfy my curiosity and reassure myself that gretavo is at least nothing so obvious as a CIA employee. I encourage other people to do the same if they feel moved... it basically all comes back to one dude (gretavo's original internet stalker) and his obvious mental health problems. That Bollyn would jump on that particular pig pile puts his cred capital balance even further in the red.

kate of the kiosk's picture

so what

if Gret were really a CIA agent working out of Harvard.

as Kate says, just because...does not mean they are not an RT~

gretavo's picture

well that would be kind of badass

but it isn't the case, but there is so much other (more obvious) BS in the above accusations that have now been recycled by both truthaction and Bollyn that as I've said before, it says more about those who resort to this kind of dredging than it does about me...

juandelacruz's picture

Hey G, Could you give a good

Hey G,

Could you give a good word for me at Langley, I need a better paying job. The pay sux at Herzliya. Just kidding :)

A lot of what I think I know about the Zionist angle came from info that Bollyn wrote about in his articles. Not everything however. I have always thought he had sloppy conclusions/analysis though. I am still leaning on the possibility that he is not a deliberate disinfo. But if Jim Hoffman (WTC7 website) and even Steven Jones (CD researcher) later turned out to be disinfo, it is possible that a certain Zionist angle promoter is a deep cover disinfo as well.

kate of the kiosk's picture

funny

i feel the same about Bollyn...learned most from him and some from Lazlo. Bollyn's writing style leaves something to be desired; he repeats himself, and it's almost as if English is not his first language. I don't think he is a nazi or even an overt anti-judaic (i dont' use semite) but an arrogant and angered white mainline Christian germanophile. Yeah, and he does come off as a racist.  But who knows. Definitely disappointed and angered by him attacking our Gretavo~~

and i seem to recall this old post that he quotes from about G shortly after joining this blog.

gretavo's picture

warning signals versus conclusions

We all know that good disinfo is partially correct, right? So I'm certainly not saying that everything Bollyn claims is false, I have just come to find that he shouldn't be taken at face value by default. There is no question, based on his interview with David Duke, that he is against mixed-race marriages, which is without question in my mind the mark of a racist. It was this latest post of his that really struck me as being a blatant sign of dishonesty, however. What kind of journalist parrots absurd allegations made online by an obviously mentally diusturbed (or deliberately deceptive) individual without so much as a disclaimer that one's research on the subject amounted to a google search turning up a series of fantastic stories posted to indymedia sites worldwide?

gretavo's picture

Bollyn now pushing missiles/pods...

Let's just say I'm glad he put me on his shitlist. Of course some 911blogger regulars still think he's credible! And yeah, looks like Prof. Jones is still chummy with him!

An Analysis of the Missile of Flight 175

Updated - January 10, 2011

This article began as a New Year's letter to 9/11 researcher Dr. Steven E. Jones, which I decided to make an open letter:

Dear Professor Jones,

All the best wishes for 2011, which I hope will be a great year for 9/11 truth.

This morning, the first thing I did, even before getting out of my pajamas, was examine a photo that has bothered me for some time (as it sits on my desk). It is the attached photo (No. 0879 from the Here is New York website).

Photo 0879 from Here is New York website shows the view from the North of the plane striking South Tower.

What bothers me is the fact that the fireballs seem to be exploding much too quickly to be merely jet fuel. As you know, I am of the opinion that depleted uranium tipped missiles preceded the entry of each plane, by a few milliseconds of impact. This is apparently what caused the white flash seen as each plane impacted the tower. The depleted uranium warhead would have created a super-heated space inside the tower which would have detonated any pre-placed thermate charges on the floor (for example in the large "battery" racks in the computer room, which were "never turned on," according to a person who worked there) and ignited the dispersed jet fuel. The DU-tipped missile was the trigger of the spectacular fireballs witnessed by millions.

Both planes were guided to fly directly into secure computer rooms in which large amounts of thermate could have been concealed in un-used battery arrays. The white-hot penetrator of a depleted uranium warhead would have detonated this thermate, creating the spectacular fireballs and destroying most of the aircraft - and the evidence.

The spectacular explosions that accompanied the impact of the planes suggest that they were created with thermate incendiaries containing barium nitrate, which would explain the light orange flame and white smoke.

The large amount of molten metal (apparently iron) from the 81st floor suggests a very large amount of thermate (an incendiary form of thermite) had been placed in the computer room into which the plane flew. See Thermite in the World Trade Center - The Censored Evidence

A missile fired from a pod under the fuselage can be seen in images of the plane striking the South Tower. The missile (which appears in lower left photo to have a trail with a diameter of about 1 meter) would have had much greater velocity than the aircraft penetrating the tower. If this missile exceeded the speed of sound did it cause the sonic boom reportedly heard by witnesses?