911 Truth Seekers Continue To Call Out The Fake 911 Truth Movement
Each time I re-visit 911Blogger I notice more and more people calling out the Fake 911 Truth Movement. Here's an interesting exchange between Jon Gold and Robert Rice at 9/11 Blogger.com.
The exchange is in response to an interview of Lt. Anthony Shaffer by Alex Jones. Jon Gold, a known anti-controlled demolition and LIHOP specialist, starts us off.
And then...some credibility building by Gold for himself...
I'm talking to him now...
About it. Non-Able Danger related... the thing that stood out to me was the fact that a Commissioner told him that each Commissioner was there to cover up for different people/organizations.
Two guesses of mine...
Lee Hamilton = Dick Cheney
Thomas Kean = George Bush
Now that's the Jon Gold I know. This guy relentlessly attempts to make himself appear important by name dropping and associating himself with 'the family members' to maintain 'credibility' within the movement. These associations actually hurt Jon Gold's credibility. especially considering that he's a known anti-controlled demolition LIHOPPER and he's voicing strong support for another extremely LIHIOP scenario presented by Anthony Shaffer.
To counter this I'm sure Gold will be posting a blog entry concerning "The Family Members" within 24 hrs.
Next we have an interesting response by Robert Rice. Rice echoes my own concerns about Able Danger and Anthony Shaffer.
I cannot be the only one to recognize the significance of the very name of the operation, which was to follow and establish a capable or ABLE "danger" operating in the USA.
How can Shaffer have been completely removed or departmentalized from the true nature of what he was tasked with, given his credentials and sphere of operations..?
I see him as a type of spin doctor, with Alex Jones as part of a strange controlled opposition..
That it was left out of the 9/11 Report yes, is very significant - but what of the operation itself - was it not to ENSURE that there was a patsy "grid" in place, so as to allow for the successful execution of the 9/11 event itself?
So as a good guy, perhaps, as one who MAY have unwittingly been directly involved on the periphery, or even on the outer edges of the inner circle, at least for the LIHOP elements - of course he's going to try to use this book release to try to distance himself in history. However, given his credentials, what he was involved in and who he worked for, I have my doubts as to his true standing in relation to the 9/11 event and other similar such "black-ops" and psy-ops..
At the very least he knows way way WAY MORE than he's saying, so on that basis, I don't trust him, nor support him or his CIA vetted book release.
Also, why didn't AJ ask him any hardball questions?
Makes my spidey senses tingle, this story, that it may represent part of an elaborate controlled opposition spin to counter the movement of the 9/11 truth movement and there's Alex Jones eating it up and just loving it, as the somewhat narcissistic, megalomaniacal personality that he is.
Sorry, but I have to call these things the way I see them.
What's so disturbing about this, imho, is the fact that this guy was actually involved, in one way or another, in setting the stage for the 9/11 event, and controlling, to a large degree, the surrounding framework by which these hijackers were indentified, and then guarded until the nasty deed was done as per Zelikow's script.
So it's eery I think to hear an actual participant in 9/11 being interviewed by AJ and hailed as some sort of advocate for our movement for real and authentic 9/11 disclosure.
And his book will be edited by the CIA..
C'mon people, open your eyes.
Notice that RObert Rice actually apologizes to the 911Blogger community for questioning Lt. Anthony Shaffer and Able Danger. It is my view that discourse and thought control are the motivations behind the fake 911 Truth movement. I too felt the need to apologize to the 911Blogger community when asking the most common sense questions regarding so called 'bombshells' like Able Danger and Steve Alten's bombshell 911 Book The Shell Game. This apology says so much about 911Blogger.com and how it's used to control discourse.
Later Jon Gold responds to Robert Rice and double checks that we all made a note that he's some kind of 'buddy' with Lt. Col. Anthony Shafer and Able Danger.
A "spin doctor" would do something like this. Tony and I have chatted a lot, and he openly supports my efforts. From everything I can see, he is a good man. We have disagreements about the war, etc... but I don't doubt his sincerity.
Give me a break. So let me get this straight..."Tony" supports the anti-controlled demolition LIHOP efforts of Jon Gold? And Jon Gold is buddies with Tony Shaffer, someone who's testimony actually re-enforces the Islamaphobic Myth of 911?
Is that really that surprising to anyone?
Last I'll leave you with the obvious questions left on the table for Tony Able Danger Shaffer and one that blows his Al Queada baby right out of the water. What about the controlled demolition of WTC Building 7?
Just as long as you realize that the very operation (Able Danger) that he was spearheading, was utilized to ENSURE that the 9/11 black-op/psy-op could be faciliated, in other words that he was directly involved, although it's possible his op COULD have been utilized for this purpose unbenownst to himself, in other words that he was so compartmentalized that the left hand didn't know what the right hand was doing.. Regardless he did serve to help set up and monitor the framework within which the crime of the century and mass murder, was perpetrated. But at most, this guy was only one step away from the perps themselves, and I don't mean just the hijackers.
What are his thoughts about the manner in which the twin towers and building 7 were destroyed? What does he think of that?
Gold and 911Blogger in general surely realize that Able Danger actually re-enforces the fake Islamaphobic explanation about the attcks on 9/11/2001. The real question is why must people apologize to the community when voicing these concerns?
a nice way to start the new
a nice way to start the new year, keep the pressure on them fake truthers
approve comment please
Do you think that a hall-mark of the Fake 911 Truth Movement (F911TM)? is it's constant insistence on being 'positive' and 'unified' at all costs? People are forced into being apologetic for making sound assumptions on the available information. For example, Tony Able Danger Shaffer is seen on main stream media outlets like CNN and FOX News protecting the myth of an an Islamic super-villain that carried out the 9/11/2001 attacks. If his book has been truely vetted by the CIA, then Alex Jones and Anthony Shaffer is quite literally marketing CIA propaganda about the 9/11 Attacks.
When people make these obvious observations they are met by the likes of Jon Gold bragging about how him and Tony Able Danger Shaffer are buddies. LooseNuke is sure to follow close behind by slapping us on the knuckles and reminding us that we should make logical assumptions without a court order or CIA vetted interpretation of the truth.
The reason it works and the reason people end up apologizing for being intelligent is because 9/11 is such a mind-blowing event. We're just a little disoriented. We are somehow convinced to apologize for pointing out glaring contradictions. For example, Jon Gold and others constantly use the 911 Commission as a source of factual information about the 9/11 attacks. The contradiction is that we know the crimes of 9/11 were covered-up and this commission played a pivotal role in that cover-up.
Should I apologize for pointing this out?
Alex Jones is helping Lt. Col. Shaffer market a CIA vetted book about the 911 attacks which we all know will support the official explanation about 9/11/2001 attacks.
Should I apologize for pointing that out?
New York Times Best Selling And 911 Truth Author Steve Alten is another one I suspect of being a fake truther. He was recently pimping a re-written paper-back version of his 'bombshell' 911 Super-Book "The Shell Game". The same people you hear pimping Anthony Shaffer were helping Alten pimp the first version of The Shell Game.
Remember what a bomb-shell that was going to be? Well he's revised it and you can by version two which, according to New York Time Best Selling Author Steve Alten, delivers the goods this time!. Sales were 'pretty good' for version 1 of The Shell Game said Alten.
Here listen to Steve Alten talk about unification and not making assumptions. Basically, let the experts do the work and support them.
Steve Alten - Cheri Roberts - The Shell Game V2.0
I'm reading this book:
How the Relentless Promotion of Positive Thinking Has Undermined America
The fake 911 Truthers are similar to the Positive Thinking Motivation Gurus in this book. The author makes the case that this demand for positive thinking is a sort of mind-conditioning and control. It's used by corporations to get people to work more for less. But by insisting that we 'stay positive and unified' we end up losing ground in the quest for the truth about 9/11.
Although the author quotes Michael Shermer in her book, I will end with a quote from the author. She starts the book with this dedication:
"To Complainers Everywhere: Turn Up The Volume!"
interesting observation
i have been very suspicious for a while now of the positive thinking thing. especially since it seems tailor made for a post 9/11 public weary of bad news and their powerlessness over it. adding to my suspicion is the fact that a course at harvard called "positive psychology" was one of the top 3 undergrad courses while it was offered, taught by a young unknown israeli junior (untenured) prof. the course was pimped by the zionist-heavy student paper as the most wonderful thing in the world...
Tal Ben Shahar, "Positive Psychology" and 9/11
Here's his site: http://www.talbenshahar.com/
Yes, it's pretty sickening stuff... here's a quote from his site:
Herzliya, huh? That is indeed the same Herzliya where Mossad has its HQ. Here's his wikipedia entry:
Now, I hyperlinked that one he wrote right after 9/11 to the google books version where you can read most of his screed--but here's the product description from Amazon:
And here are some of the many media plugs he got while he was teaching (as an untenured lecturer, not a prof, my bad) at Harvard:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/05/31/earlyshow/contributors/melinda...
http://www.businessweek.com/globalbiz/content/aug2008/gb20080820_939323....
http://harvardmagazine.com/2007/01/the-science-of-happiness.html
http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2006/03/10/harvards_crowded_co...
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-august-9-2007/tal-ben-shahar
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5295168
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/30/business/30offline.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/07/magazine/07happiness.t.html
Those are just a few mainstream plugs--the Harvard Crimson, of course, was full of them: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=tal+ben+shahar+site%3Athecrimson.co...
So I'm not saying, you know... Just saying... Hmmmm.
Very Interesting
The author of BrightSided mentioned "Positive Psychology" in the beginning of the book. The information you posted is very interesting. Now that I think back and re-visit some of my dialog on 9/11 related websites like 911Blogger I see this demand for positive thinking many places.
Just think back to all the so-called "bombshells" that we are encouraged to get behind. The Shell Game, Bill Douglas, Dennis Kucinich and his 911 Inquiry, Sibel Edmonds, Anthony Shaffer, Omar Sheik Saeed (the paymaster of 9/11), Ron Paul for 9/11 Truth. All apparent insiders with bombshells.
More like subterfuge to hide the obvious.
1. controlled demolition of the wtc complex
2. lack of evidence at the pentagon site
I'm going to be super-negative right here. I'll apologize before I point out that the insiders with the bombshells always seem to be anti-controlled demolition folks.
Anyway, thanks for the information. Very interesting stuff.
another article on the "happiness guru"
I just had to post this one in its original form, from the Forward, because of the Oscar pic. :)
Seriously though, please read A Clash of Values: The Struggle for Universal Freedom (2002) as much of it is readable in the google books version, and it shows what a Zionist extremist this character is...
Happy Days Are Here Again
By Nathan Burstein
An Israeli “happiness” expert is bringing his popular Harvard University course to American TV audiences.
Starting August 3, Public Broadcasting Service stations across the nation will broadcast “Happiness 101 With Tal Ben-Shahar,” a 90-minute special featuring the Israeli author and Ivy League lecturer as he advises viewers on how to make their lives more pleasurable and satisfying. Drawn from the positive psychology movement — defined by PBS as “the scientific study of optimal human functioning” — the program examines the concept of happiness and analyzes research studies looking at the combined effect of genes, personality and lifestyle on a person’s level of happiness. Joining Ben-Shahar on the program are comedian Ellen DeGeneres and several of Ben-Shahar’s colleagues in academia, who appear in segments exploring stress and other topics related to happiness.
Although the PBS program should produce one of his biggest audiences yet, Ben-Shahar has previous experience speaking to large groups. One of his courses, Psychology 1504: Positive Psychology, became the most popular class at Harvard during the 2005–2006 school year, drawing more than 850 students to each week’s lectures. A second course with Ben-Shahar ranked third on the university’s list of heavily subscribed courses that year, with an enrollment of 550.
The author of two books on positive psychology, Ben-Shahar promoted the latter, 2007’s “Happier: Learning the Secrets to Daily Joy and Lasting Fulfillment,” on “The Daily Show With Jon Stewart.”
A former Israeli national champion at squash, Ben-Shahar continued in the sport as an undergraduate at Harvard, earning all-American status three times. Currently a scholar-in-residence at The David Project, a pro-Israel advocacy organization, he is also the author of “A Clash of Values: The Struggle for Universal Freedom,” a 2002 book about Islamic extremism and the West.
Ben-Shahar will teach an online course on positive psychology through the University of Pennsylvania this fall.
The "David Project" is misidentified here. It is not simply a run-of-the-mill "pro-Israel" advocacy group. Known for its heavy-handed, underhanded and even thuggish tactics, it is more anti-Islam than pro-Israel. And by anti-Islam I do not mean simply anti-extremist Islam, but anti-Islam period. In terms of its media bent, think of it as the Jewish Al Sharpton.
Clash of Values
"Seriously though, please read A Clash of Values: The Struggle for Universal Freedom (2002)"
I started reading this last night.
"it shows what a Zionist extremist this character is..."
The introduction to the book makes this clear as glass. Ben-Sharhar leaves no room for discussion. Israel = good, positive, democracy and freedom while Arab nations = evil, thugs, murderous, human rights violations, Nazi propagandists.
The irony is that Tal Ben-Shahar's description of Israel's Arab enemies could easily be used to describe Israel itself. As I read this I can't imagine the author didn't notice this when he wrote this book in such black and white terms.
I had an interesting exchange with a US Marine who would 'do anything for Israel'. He was so pissed at me and my friend who was also a Marine because we did not 'get it'. It made him furious that we did not want to smash the Arabs.
At one point the guy became furious and exclaimed "Those people (Muslims) will cut your kids fucking throat if given the chance!!!!".
Creepy shit.
it's nice to see...
...that some reader, presumably Jewish, of the Forward commented and made clear that the David Project is extremist. one of the most important things we can do is to encourage and empower Jewish people to stand up to Israel's claims of representing them, at least until such a time as Israel decides to be a free democratic state of all its citizens, with full right of return for all refugees.
-gReT
who else has been on the Daily Show?
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-april-24-2006/efraim-halevy
Efraim Halevy, head of Mossad on 9/11. Truly a bizarre booking for the show, and you can sense some awkwardness from Stewart, though he does his best to softball Halevy through it...
here's some 100 proof LIHOP just posted at 911B
What about John McLaughlin’s role in intentionally and deliberately allowing the attacks on 9/11 to take place. While there is no direct evidence of his involvement, there is direct evidence of the involvement of Cofer Black, George Tenet, John Gannon, and the CIA Yemen station, the CIA Pakistan Station, the CIA Bin Laden unit with Richard Blee as its Chief, and Tom Wilshire, Deputy Chief of the Bin Laden unit. Wilshire had been moved over to be Deputy Chief of the ITOS unit at the FBI in mid-May 2001 by Black and Tenet, with the concurrence of Freeh and Rolince, to find out what the FBI Cole criminal investigators knew the Kuala Lumpur meeting, and if they had found out that Mihdhar and Hazmi had been at that meeting with Walid bin Attash actually planning the bombing of the USS Cole. This was the information that the CIA had desperately wanted to keep secret from the FBI Cole bombing investigators ever since Bin Attash had been positively identified on January 4, 2001 in a photograph taken at the Kuala Lumpur al Qaeda planning meeting with Mihdhar and Hazmi actually planning the Cole bombing.
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