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than with more than the usual amount of cynicism? I remember dz (the founder of 911blogger.com) early on being amused that I called out Jon Gold as a shill (early 2006) saying he thought it ridiculous--no one had ever done something so absurd as to accuse Jon Gold of being a shill. At that point (these were the "haloscan days") I recall responding along the lines of "go ahead and ban me, but I call em like I see em" which dz, to his credit and despite Gold's explicit request, refused to do. What seemed to most people at the time to be the depth of cynicism (accusing Jon Gold of discouraging focus on CD in favor of LIHOP deliberately and with malicious intent) no longer seems like the depths of cynicism to most. Nor am I claiming that I was somehow so much more perceptive than everyone else--the fact is that there weren't as many real, honest truthers in early 2006 as there are now--eventually someone other than me would, I assume, have begun to call out Gold on his obsession with preserving the Islamofascist myth.

To put it bluntly, Craig and Aldo are either a) dishonest or b) sincere. Regardless of whether it's a) or b), however, we can safely now say that they are clearly intolerant of anything less than 100% faith in them, and their research and conclusions. They are very friendly as long as you show due deference, but become agitated, combative, and snarky if you don't quickly express complete agreement with everything they say. Now, if anyone were to say that Gretavo is either honest or insincere, but that they're not sure which it might be since they don't know me, I wouldn't demand "a full retraction and apology" from the person--I haven't been that insecure since maybe high school.

I've reached the point where I really could care less what CIT has to bring to the debate over what happened at the Pentagon. As I said before, I don't need to believe in CIT's sincerity to believe the possibility of a flyover, and certainly not to know and convince others that we are not being told the truth about it. Nor will I hold it against anyone if they disagree and want to spend their time arguing here about Lloyde's cab--to each their own, and by all means let us all know if it gets you anywhere.

"Many of those fake truthers suspect Craig and Aldo of actually being disinfo agents whereas Gretavo is positing it as a purely abstract theoretical possibility."

And the fact that that seems to pose a huge problem for Craig makes me wonder.