Jon Gold Still Appears to be Desperately Trying to Frame Muslims for 9/11

Over at TrueFaction they have a thread discussing "suppressed evidence" about Hani Hanjour, that has to do with how he obtained his flight certification (after failing several times he was allegedly passed by an Israeli, Eddie Shalev.) Now, I'm not sure what the point of passing Hanjour would be, or why it matters, except maybe to create the illusion that this was a qualified pilot who could conceivably have flown AA77 into the Pentagon. I mean, it's not like you need a pilot's license or any kind of certification to hijack a plane, right? So anyway, whatever the case, by all accounts Hanjour could not have been at the controls of AA77. Big problem for the OCT right? WRONG! Jon Gold has a knack for finding poorly sourced obscure stories based on rumors and innuendo that also serve to keep the focus on Arbas and/or Muslims as the evildoers we know and love
Jon Gold
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 5:28 pm Post subject:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article2936761.ece
According to Sakka, Nawaf al-Hazmi was a veteran operative who went on to pilot the plane that hit the Pentagon. Although this is at odds with the official account, which says the plane was flown by another hijacker, it is plausible and might answer one of the mysteries of 9/11.
The Pentagon plane performed a complex spiral dive into its target. Yet the pilot attributed with flying the plane “could not fly at all” according to his flight instructors in America. Hazmi, on the other hand, had mixed reviews from his instructors but they did remark on how “adept” he was on his first flight.
Paul Thompson, author and 9/11 researcher, said Sakka’s account was credible. “I think there is a lot more about the history of the hijackers that needs to be found out and Sakka’s claim may resume the debate about just how much was known about them before 9/11,” he said.
Why does no one mention this ever?
Let me answer that question for you Jon. Actually, YOU mention crap like this constantly. But no one else thinks it's credible or relevant. See, most people who understand that the official story of 9/11 is a lie understand that when all the evidence provided for a given account (like the official story) turns out to be fabricated, it is not logical to conclude that real solid evidence exists for that same claim--OTHERWISE IT WOULD HAVE BEEN USED IN THE FIRST PLACE.
Mr. "Gold", I suggest you quit while you're ahead. You may yet convince most people that you were genuinely interested in 9/11 truth. Continue to persecute arabs and muslims, continue to defame them, continue to cling to the Islamofascist libel, however, and you will find few people who will give you the benefit of the doubt when the real truth is ultimately known.
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Jon Gold implies that Mossad was behind WTC bombs
Yes, believe it or not, this just happened on 911Blogger. Here is his post http://www.911blogger.com/node/20920#comment-214584
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If it was a bomb [that Willie Rogriguez experienced], and I had to guess, I would think it may have something to do with Fact #21 of this piece that I wrote (which is why I included it).
Fuck off.
I thought that closing statement was a nice effect - such classic Jon Gold that we've all come to know and love.
Fact #21 is about the Urban Moving Systems van with the dancing Israelis on top "documenting the event"
So, is this a genuine shift in Jon's thinking about who was behind 9/11? If so, then why does Jon still continue to blog about any and all LIHOP slop that nobody else thinks is credible or relevant?
Incidently, Jon still does not support CD, as he makes clear in his comment, but seems to agree that there were bombs planted in the WTC that his "friend" Willie Rodriguez experienced (Jon "talks to Willie all the time", as he claims in a previous comment, so Willie is presumably another one who Jon includes in his I know everyone who's anyone in the 9/11 truth movement shtick).
Bombs but no CD. Bombs planted by Mossad. What's going on here? Anyone want to theorize where Jon is going with this?
Gold makes this amazing comment as well...
"Did you know that Willie Rodriguez doesn't support CD? Bombs in the building is different than CD."
another of the "the Arabs did it" set has this to say...
"Whaddaya know, the majority of this movement is screaming about controlled demo and the Pentagon and so the NatGeo film makers focus entirely on these two points! Thereby discrediting 9/11 truth, since 9/11 truth = what happened to the towers and at the Pentagon of course. .. /feigned shock ..
As Jon has pointed out time and time and time again, if they can get you to ask the wrong questions, they dont have to worry about the answers."
and once again, the No CD crew is doing their level best to some of the ONLY remaining evidence the Truth movement has to go on.
"The future is not inherited, it is achieved." JFK
if they can get you to ask the wrong questions...
so true... here's a long list of the wrong questions:
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/2184
Jon told Kate of the Kiosk
Jon told Kate of the Kiosk personally that CD was it a few months ago. I think it was a grudging admission at the time after the Harrit paper came out and the CD deniers had nothing to answer it. Jon's handlers probably thought of a new spin to explain away CD so he is back to denying CD in public.
Blaming Mossad for the bombs planted at WTC may be a way to garner some credence from those who think Israel was involved, but at the same time it may be a disinfo if the Mossad did not itself plant the bombs.
I think Mossad was involved in the overall plot but I have not seen evidence pointing to them actually installing any bombs in WTC. I think if anyone would have been planting demo charges, professional CD contractors would have been tasked to do it due to the size and complexity of such a project.
They had to have used trained professionals...
... to rig the demolition. It's not like pulling cable for some telephone wiring gig, these are high explosives being expertly placed in a working office condition. That's not something you just hand over to a bunch of dumbass zealots, whether they are from this country or any country. They knew what they were doing. And it damn sure wasn't 1.8 million ceiling tile bombs or a sprayed on paint application...
"The future is not inherited, it is achieved." JFK
A clarification for the paranoid
Cool, I finally got a comment posted on 911b. Yes, it was foul-mouthed and out of line, but the final line "he'll get his." simply referred to karma. Sheesh, that's more than enough time wasted on that.
great, thanks for clarifying
I removed the previous comments because however much we dislike people and believe them to be acting in bad faith, like Jon Gold, "hate" as a term carries a lot of baggage and sends the wrong message about what we're all about here.
how about we be creative...
...and say what we think about Jesse Ventura (aka James George Janos-Lenz) getting all cozy with Alex Jones lately, without using the words "douchebag", "hate", "fake as shit assholes", or "crumpet"?
Jesse Ventura gives Alex Jones an inside look at his new TV show
Infowars
August 25, 2009
Alex Jones visits with Jesse Ventura, who is working on a TruTV show dubbed ‘Conspiracy Theory’ and slated for a late fall release.
The former governor gives us a glimpse into his upcoming show, which will delve into and investigate various areas of ‘controversial history.’ Ventura won’t give away the episode topics, but does tell us that Alex will be part of the show, and that areas like 9/11 will be explored.
Can we use the words...
... "marketing ploy"? How about "crass opportunism"? "New show ratings bump?" "Spin-off exploitation?" "Go west, young man, go west... cus ders GOLD in dem dare SHILLS!"
On a more serious note, I would say it's just yet another fine example of disaster capitalism at work. As Rahm would say, "never let a good crisis go to waste."
"The future is not inherited, it is achieved." JFK
Alex Jones defending Glenn Beck and Michael Savage?
Found this comment over at 911Blogger:
Speaking of treason, has anyone heard Alex Jones lately defending Glenn Beck like an ex-lover? I couldn't believe it! He has been frothing at the mouth and demanding that his listeners stand behind Glenn Beck and Michael Savage, two of the most vicious anti-truthers out there. I swear to you that it's true. Go to AlexJonespodcasts.com and download yesterday's 8/25 show to see for yourself. Has he sold out or was he just a phony all along? Is he dumb enough to believe that Beck would ever come to his aid if his show was ever in jeopardy? If anything Beck would love to shut down Alex Jones altogether. Here we finally have a chance to fight back against Beck through boycotts and instead Jones wants to pander to Fixed News? Are you kidding me?!?! Something ain't right here folks. Something stinks REAL bad! Anyway, Beck has lost about 32 advertisers and I strongly encourage you all to sign petitions to keep the ball rolling. I do not believe that 9/11 truth can co-exist with Jones.
http://foxnewsboycott.com/
Submitted by Buru Dragon on Wed, 08/26/2009 - 2:03pm.
EDIT: Here's the info and link to the AJ show in question--I haven't listened to it--can anyone confirm what buru dragon says?
Tuesday 8-25-08 - Alex welcomes to the show Dr. Mayer Eisenstein, a Chicago physician and author of Don't Vaccinate Before You Educate, available at the Infowars Store. Dr. Eisenstein has taken up the cause of protecting the public from government and big pharma schemes to vaccinate millions of people, including children, for the hyped H1N1 flu pandemic this autumn. Peace activist Cindy Sheehan talks about her campaign at the elite playground on Martha's Vineyard where the Obamas are on vacation. Alex also runs down the latest news and takes your calls.
Michael Savage on 9/11/01
The articles on his site
The articles on his site written by his staff(Watson,Nimmo) are always calling Beck "disinfo" but they have posted articles at least somewhat sympathetic to both Savage and Beck before(about Savage being kept out of England and Beck losing sponsors). AJ just keeps getting worse though, hes clearly trying to make more money by trying to latch on to Limbaugh and Becks moron audiences since the election of Obama.
Alex Jones on the 8-25 show.... "you know why I don't like...
"... Glenn Beck? He said we should arrest these truthers. They're terrorists, they're dangerous, we should watch them."
36 minutes into the broadcast.
"But even though Beck is an operative, they are using him as a case point example. It may even be his job, with his $50 million dollar contract, too be destroyed. But now he is a figure-head for free-speech and he must be defended. Just like Savage. I don't think Savage is a figure-head, I agree with about 80% of what he says.
I support the antiwar people, I support Glenn Beck, I support the Black Panthers... because if you take anybody's free speech away, it's over."
How many times has Jones threatened to sue people for saying things about him? How many times? 20?
Jones is talking about them using Beck as a lightning rod for the passage of free speech killing laws. He doesn't sound like he is loving on Glenn Beck to me, but if Jones wants any credibility on this issue, he needs to stop threatening to sue people "and take all their stuff" when they happen to say things about him in public that he doesn't like.
"The future is not inherited, it is achieved." JFK
Freedom of speech is not an
Freedom of speech is not an unconditional or otherwise unconstrained right. You could start looking into that fact here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Consti...
See the section called "Libel, slander, and private action."
My right to liberty includes being able to swing my fist. However, my right to do so ends at your face because, at that moment, a harm against you has occured.
Being harmed by speech doesn't necessarily include something the subject of that speech simply dislikes. If Jones believes that he has been harmed by what someone has said, he has a right to seek remedy. The burden of providing proof of tortious conduct on the part of the defendant would be on Jones. His remedy would be in the law and could be decided in court by a jury or judge determining how much stuff Jones would get should he prevail. Or, Jones and a defendant could agree to an out of court settlement, with the defendant having a little control over how much of his stuff Jones gets.
As far as supporting Beck's or Savage's or any other person's right to freedom of speech where a tort doesn't occur, I find this paraphrasing of Voltaire's Essay on Tolerance to be quite appropriate:
“I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.”
Voltaire actually said, "Think for yourselves and let others enjoy the privilege to do so too."
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