Will All The Joo Haters Please Stand Up?

The Zionist angle has never been something that I was terribly interested in. But I've noticed something recently. Well, not recently actually. I noticed it a long time ago.
I was banned from a site called Guerrilla News Network (GNN.TV) because someone called me an anti-semite. I hit back by calling the guy a loony cock and pointed out that for the many years I had been on that site I've rarely mentioned the word jew, semite, zionist, or even Israel. So I was permanently banned.
After that I decided to just LOOK at the holocaust history. Now I barely got into my history lesson when I noticed an intense argument that overshadows ANY study of the holocaust or Israel politics relative to the USA.
I found that there are laws in civilized societies that can land you in trouble for just THINKING or COMMUNICATING skepticism about the Holocaust! Wow!
That should be enough for any sensible human with a brain to want to figure this out.
I've recently read comments that describe this site and some of it's head honchos as spreading anti-jew hate and being anti-semitic.
So I have to say, I have not noticed one single instance of jew hating going on here. Nor have I noticed jew hating going on at 9/11 Blogger.com before the controlled demolition of that site.
In my short 28 years of life as history skeptic, I've RARELY experienced true jew racism and jew hatred. Of course we've all experienced passer-bys who hurl racist insults, but, like the space-beamers, I don't include these people in any serious debate or historical review of the facts on any matter (not just the holocaust).
By far the only jew hatred I've experienced is un-warranted accusations thrown around like confetti.
I often wonder about my first meeting with a newly formed 9/11 Truth group here in Pennsylvania. Very first meeting it was stated that we wouldn't be labeled as 'anti-Semites' for talking about Israel. It was my understanding that Israel was off the table!
Well, nothing is off the table with me. And when people start instructing me to push perfectly warranted and sensible arguments off the table because of fear, I have an instant skeptic sensor that starts beeping like crazy.
Anyway, I hope I didn't bore you with my rant. My main point here is that if you are going to call someone a jew hater or accuse them of hating jews, or being anti-Semites...please post examples to back up your accusations.
I'm starting to fear that I may be a jew hater myself and just don't know it...and therefore I sub-consciously block out examples of jew hatery on this site and others.
I have so much more to say about this issue but I don't have time.
Does my skepticism of the anti-holocaust denial laws make me a jew hater / anti-Semite?

thanks JPass
I think everyone who ends up where we are went through a similar process of realization. It's the "protest too much" effect--when people seem a little TOO zealous in roping off something as off-limits the natural human instinct is to look more closely.
At that point, when your determination becomes known, the real vitiriol starts and people tend to respond in one of two ways--become even MORE interested in what the big deal is OR decide that life is too short to make oneself a lightning rod for abuse for the sake of a principle.
Those who succumb to the latter justify their decision by convincing themselves that in all likelihood the protectors of the sacred no-peeking zone are just over-sensitive and by obeying their wishes (commands in some cases) one is not going to miss out on anything important. I've now been around various blocks often enough to have a pretty clear picture of the game that is being played, and I don't like it one bit.
To boil it down for brevity, let's just say that anti-semitism is as much a manufactured phenomenon as so-called terrorism.
It takes the patient of a saint to withstand the abuse of the fanatical Zionists without being tempted to think that there may really be something wrong with Jewish people--no doubt many who have become true anti-semites did so in no small part as a reaction to the deplorable behavior of the "anti-anti-semitic" fanatics. What then is the proper response to someone who denounces something that they are at the same time happily promoting, whether willingly or not?
Surely there are many brainwashed people out there who really can't tell the difference between a bigot and a fair critic, but they are not the real problem. The real problem exists at a much higher level of power that does not see the world in terms of right and wrong but as expedient vs. harmful to their pet cause or personal gain.
To enable people on both sides of such a divide to see beyond the manufactured differences is the supreme challenge for anyone determined to put the world on a peaceful course for a change. We are well beyond the point where simple rational discourse can be counted on to do the trick.
Instead I have found that to wake people up, and to do so without causing permanent injury one must rattle the cage of consciousness carefully but firmly. Powerful medicine to be sure, but also the only thing that will save the patient at this point.
We must let go of fear, let go of doubt, let go of insecurities and take bold steps forward in the struggle to emancipate ourselves and others from the mental slavery that has kept humanity morally stagnant for centuries.
Hear hear!
"We must let go of fear, let go of doubt, let go of insecurities and take bold steps forward in the struggle to emancipate ourselves and others from the mental slavery that has kept humanity morally stagnant for centuries."
Hellyea!
And thanks, jpass, that point can't be made too often, apparently. I challenge anyone to find a single bigoted statement on this site by me or any of the regulars here.
semantics
talking about the truth is anti-semitic. that's because
1) zionists have co-opted the word Semite and
2) because they behave unjustly. therefore pointing out the injustice is anti-semitic within their twisted semantics. perhaps to the casual observer being an anti-semite is a step short of being a full fledged nazi. To me it's speaking the honest truth when declaring that certain things are not right. I may one day soon proudly wear an anti-semite label understanding that its true meaning in this day is "one who is aware of what's really going on; honest and observant of the golden rule. tolerant to many peoples but intolerant to injustice"
PS - where are the comments showing up? it might be interesting to note who is saying what... "I've recently read comments that describe this site and some of it's head honchos as spreading anti-jew hate and being anti-semitic."
Lemonhoko went off on a tirade
on the truthaction.org forum, that's all. he was upset after I questioned Korey Rowe's "political prisoner" shtick...
not only here
"on the truthaction.org forum, that's all"
Gretavo is right, the truthaction.org forum was mainly the motivation behind this blog. But overall, the same situation has been repeated in front of me over and over for the last few years of my research into geo-politics and 9/11 Truth research.
Hate Speech on this Site?!! You should see YouTube
One of the problems faced by people who bear unpleasant political news and information about the state of Israel or Israelis working within or lobbying the U.S. government, is that no matter how well-researched, historically accurate, or rationally presented your piece may be – and before even one serious question can be asked – they will ask you, “Do you hate Jews? Are you an anti-Semite?†I have never once heard anyone reply back, “Do you hate Arabs? Are you an anti-Semite?†We have all been somehow taught to think that Semites are Jews and Arabs are Arabs.
We are fighting for truth against nearly a century of Edward Bernays-Joseph Goebbels- Leo Straussian-Murdochian FOX News-Rovian psy-ops operations and mass media gymnastics. Because one side of the Israel-Palestine story is always being shut down or limited, nearly all in the media and on the street, it seems, display an almost automatic, unconscious, Pavlovian response when issues regarding Israel, its history, or its politics are brought up – “Finding fault with The “State†of Israel = Finding fault with the Jews = anti-Semitism = Hatred, and thusly, all criticism of “Israel,†of its one-sided presentation of its history, it’s politicians, the actions of its military or intelligence forces, and its geo-political or regional strategies = “Hate Speech.†In politically sensitive climates such as ours, “hate speech,†in regards to 9/11 and a host of other issues, is basically code for “shit they seriously don’t want to talk about, and really, really want to keep in a swept condition under the carpet.â€
Hate speech on this site!?? That thread of excellent, thoughtful writing that I read here yesterday – The Illuminati-Bankers-Protocol forum discussion – would be the envy of any intelligent discussion board. After reading the whole thing, I felt really sorry for the readers over at the 911B.
and I think
that what leads to great discussions is the feeling of not having to worry about every little thing you say. will people get offended sometimes, or say something insensitive? probably! happens all the time when people aren't measuring every word like a poll-following politician--and guess what? that's real life for you. it's messy sometimes, because it's real. too often nowadays people want sterile things, processed things, pre-chewed gum and the like because it's easier, more convenient, and less messy. it's like safe-sex, except that the argument can be made that safe-sex has some redeeming qualities. people like Lemonhoko need to take off the brain condom and learn to enjoy full-contact mind-fucking!
Okay, now you have crossed a line! :(
You should know that advocating unsafe sex even as a metaphor is never never never ever okay. Everyone: replace your brain condom/dental dam immediately! There will be no co-mingling of cognitive fluids on this board!
hee hee I actually have something to add to this conversation but it will have to wait -- I can always make the time to be a smart ass, though.
but cass what about the children?
how ever will we have them?
Gretavo
is the Kerouac of the 911 blogscene.
ok, maybe not. but seriously, i think youre a very talented writer. Write some books!!
-m74
hey thanks
that's very very kind of you. i've always been a rebel, and now I have a cause! can i be the James Dean of the 911blogscene instead? as for writing a book or anything i think everyone should consider it--right now though i'm too busy reading them to write one of my own...
ez booking
would be easier to have many writers put together a book where each writer is assigned a chapter. Before this, all writers agree on a list of chapters as to keep things coherent. Then when all chapters are written you pass your chapter to the writer at your left and critique it. Do this a few times and you have a well sourced book ready for publishing.
alright, whose on board?
interestingly enough, content management systems like Drupal were built around the idea of facilitating publishing projects--that's why you see book pages as a content option...
so given our status as malcontents among malcontents, what can the title/theme be? the fringe of the fringe? outcasts from exile? joo haters and the haters who love to hate them? just brainstorming...
Title: Drop This Book Now! It Will Ruin Your Life As...
You Now Know It...
The truth about the last one hundred years in American history as it relates to how the fuck we got here...
I like it
That is a great title. It goes right with the blog and comments here. People will find it irresistible.
steal this book
who wrote that one, I forget. another possibility is DON'T READ THIS which is a trap because once they read it it's too late! and it applies to the title as well as the book. then maybe dropthis book now, it will ruin...etc. as the subtitle?
Who wouldn't then turn it over to read the back cover to read the "blurbs" that we will have written--a message from each of the authors explaining why the book must not be read, why the best thing to do would be to buy up every copy and burn them so that no one else will even be tempted! how slick is THAT? we'll be rich! RICH!! BWAHAHAHA! We don't even need to write anything on the inside!
Hahaha. Seriously though, I'm really liking the idea. So... why don't we start throwing out ideas for chapters, or essay subjects, so as to avoid too much overlap?
This discussion complements your post nicely, Jpass
Ok, I started reading Professor Israel Shahak's: Jewish History, Jewish Religion - The Weight of Three Thousand Years, and figured I'd do a video search on his name & this popped up. Turned out to be pretty informative, especially for anyone who thinks those who question manufactured reality are Joooo hater's or lunatics.
BTW, Jpass, did you point out to that Pennsylvania 'truth group' that the 9-11 (omit/lie/distort) commission's 'investigation' worked on the same principles? What a joke.
what popped up?
Yeah Shahak is just brilliant... RIP though, he passed on recently...
I phucked up & didn't log in, sorry.
This popped up.
Phuck
I've tried to watch this damn video 3 times now and I get about 1/3 into it and the sound goes out or it just freezes up.
Has anyone been able to finish this bitch?
Downloaded worked fine
I downloaded the thing and it works great now. The host is kind of annoying. He needs a pinch of stfu.
LOL, that he does.
He does ask a couple good questions, but for the most part he just rambles.
yup
i kept wanting to strangle him so he would let the guy answer his questions--which weren't ALL stupid but...
anyway i LOVE the old guy--he looks like one of the fictional "elders of Zion" might, except that he seems way too nice to plot world domination whilst drinking gentile blood...
Israel Shahak's book mentioned in the inetrview Jewish History Jewish Religion The Weight of 3000 Years is a must read without a doubt.
The one part I found especially interesting in this interview is when the interviewer (in one of his better moments) asked him what could explain the over the top anti-semitism that gripped Nazi Germany and he hesitated before saying he would need a whole other interview to answer that question. Oh I bet he would! What I wonder is if he would actually give the right answer....