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Haha -- this is great!
Harvard to RIAA: Take a hike!
Know more about this, gretavo?
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happiness is either here or nowhere
just seems like someone's opinion
Harvard is more likely to cave to the request. They're more than happy to complain themselves when someone "infringes" on their trademark or copyrights, and with as much money as Harvard has they are very careful not to open themselves up to lawsuits. And frankly, why should kids in college be protected when so many other kids are being shipped off to Iraq because they couldn't afford to go without the military's help?
charlie nesson
have met him, very cool. he may be on the truther page also. talk to him.
seems like a neat guy
says he wrote a BASIC program that played 5 card draw jacks or better back in 1981... my first exposure to BASIC was in 1982 in third grade-- 10 PRINT "HELLO" 20 GOTO 10 Ahhhh those were the days! Had my family been able to afford a computer back then who knows where I'd be today--probably not truthing, which is why I never poo poo fate or second guess my life...
BASIC
:) I did lots of Basic as a kid in the mid to late 80'ies. Hey, i "released" a collection of 5 or so programms on tape during my peak then (remember the datasette for C64 ? ), in an edition of 5 or so copies , made with a double-tape, hehe. Best one was a "racing" game . Took quite a bit of imagination to see the cars tho haha:) those were the days indeed. And yes, programming is what pays the bills these days.
Why do you think you wouldn't be a truther now if you had gone down that road too? Its not like programming hurts the logical thinking skills required to be one;)
-em7
[c]
oh probably because i'd be more financially secure
and swallowed up by the system like so many people I know... who knows, que sera sera...
well,
depends. Fortunately, not all programmers work 8 to 5 jobs in the big corporate world :)
-em7
You guys still censoring?
- KT
Our dearly departed....
Oooh, very cool... but really, anything? What exactly is acceptable and what is forbidden? I don't want to cross the line or be a "disruptor."
Keith Olbermann, "Bush & Chaney Resign Now!"
July 3, 2007
This is a must see. Damn its fun to hear Keith lay into these creeps!
Ok, I know that Keith Olbermann is not officially a 9/11 truther yet, but he's getting awefully close, as evidenced by this statement at 5:28 into the video:
"I accuse you of fomenting fear among your own people, of creating the very terror you claim to have fought!"
Kinda makes ya wonder if Keith is holding back just barely enough not to be kicked off the air.
Ya, I know, just having Bush and Chaney resign is not enough. But still...
Have you seen this one, Keenan?
The insinuation of 'manufactured terror' didn't escape me.
Yes, I remember that one...
The Nexus of Politics and Terror, one of Olbermann's best. C'mon Keith, just say it...I know you can...
Pathocracy: DISEASE
Pathocracy: DISEASE
Political Ponerology - the science of evil adjusted for politics
Understanding the science of ponerology presents a real and viable opportunity to create a life affirming world rather than the current world ruled by the inhuman laws of war and apathy.
http://www.signs-of-the-times.org/articles/show/136243-Ponerology+of+Apa...
"With this understanding, we begin to get an even better idea of how psychopaths can conspire and actually pull it off: in a society where evil is not studied or understood, they easily "rise to the top" and proceed to condition normal people to accept their dominance, to accept their lies without question. [...]
What would happen if a state of affairs ensued which conferred internal peace, corresponding order, and relative prosperity within the nation?
The overwhelming majority of the country's population -being normal - would make skillful use of all the emerging possibilities, taking advantage of their superior qualifications to fight for an ever-increasing scope of activities. Thanks to their higher numbers, there would be a higher birth rate of their kind, and their power would increase. This majority would be joined by some sons from the privileged class who did not inherit the psychopathic genes. The pathocracy's dominance would weaken steadily, finally leading to a situation wherein the society of normal people take back the power. To the pathocrats, this is a known and nightmarish vision."
Ponerology of Apathy and War:
Crop Circles
Skys the limit? :) Ok, time to do some reading about crop circles!
First, have a look at this one:
Milk Hill, Wiltshire, August 12 2001
http://archiv.fgk.org/01/MilkHill-01/index_d.shtml
diameter: 300 meters, 409 circles
Want to re-create that one? Heres how:
http://www.zefdamen.nl/CropCircles/Reconstructions/2001/MilkHill201/milkhill22001en.htm
Interesting read:
http://www.anomalist.com/features/cropcircles.html
The biophysics of crop circles:
http://www.lovely.clara.net/biophysical.html
I would say this is all rather stunning.
But, all just a man-made hoax? http://www.circlemakers.org/
You decide!:)
.eM7-4
This is one of the best
This is one of the best videos on crop cirlces ive seen. A real scientific aproach.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8976376254172659901&total=36&sta...
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The 11th Day of Every Month
Thanks
for the link, Lemonhoko.
Am just watching it. Great video so far.
Words to describe all this have yet to be invented.
Feel the math !
Beautiful beyond imagination.
-em7
Have you guys seen this
Have you guys seen this video or heard of Tsarion?
He has some very interesting things to say.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8545585184878490822
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The 11th Day of Every Month
Yeah, I saw that a while back.
I actually like Tsarion, I think there's a lot to symbolism & secret societies.
Kevin Barrett & the Three Stooges
Kevin Barrett had on no-planer Morgan Reynolds as guest last night. http://mp3.wtprn.com/Barrett07.html
As much as I like Barrett, it's really disturbing that he continues to give the time of day to Fetzer/Reynolds/Wood. Barrett's also paired with Fetzer for their "Dynamic Duo" show on RBN.
Their pressing the case that Truthers need to be (wasting our time & discrediting our message) discussing their theories, we'd be negligent not to, blah blah... well that speaks for itself. But Barrett's bonifying them.. tsk tsk tsk.
I don't know anything about Barrett's 2nd guest, Rick Ratjer, but he co-authored a piece with Reynolds questioning planes.
I so want to like Barrett... but cognitive dissonance strikes re these associations.
Kind of gutsy of Kevin, actually....
You could sort of tell it was a bit of a strain, even for someone of KB's generosity of spirit, for him to treat these "theories" with a modicum of respect....
Kevin sincerely and instinctively tries to be a unifying personality in the movement for all the right reasons, IMO.
In his defense (and I'm not a space-beamer), the "energy-deficit" that disintegrated the Twins has yet to be explained. Something exploded the non-steel in those buildings into 50 micron dust....we haven't figured out just what yet....
Keep your friends close,....
and your enemies closer.
for the record...
....I forgot to log in for the above post.
9/11 Truth is the Real Peace Movement
I listen to it
well some of it I was going to call up but lost phone an power due to a wicked bad thunderstorm
washed my damn driveway out to..
I lost all faith in Barrent he is tainted
NYFD torpedos Guiliani--
NYFD torpedos Guiliani-- fresh! video inside:
http://www.rudy-urbanlegend.com/index.asp?v=vaCYEEO-58I
Nazi Shrunken Heads: or deconstructing the Nuremburg Charade
Cllick this link to watch the video: Nazi Shrunken Heads
This video by an author who whishes to remain anonymous (for obvious reasons) deconstructs just a few of the atrocity fabrications trotted out during the Nuremburg War Crimes Charade...er...Trials. He discusses the gullibility of people to believe in atrocity stories, especially as part of war time propaganda.
This is a superbly well done video. My only criticism is towards the end when the author discusses his hypothesis regarding evil vs "evolutionary group strategy". Basically, the author way over-simplifies when he says that there is really no evil, there is just evolutionary group strategy. He asserts that the Jewish evolutionary group strategy is to fabricate things like the holocaust in order to portray themselves as a victimized group, both to themselves for "group cohesian", and to others to stave off "bad vibes".
He appears to not be aware of the pathocratic elite of psychopaths who lie to and manipulate the rest of the group. I think it's inaccurate to imply that the overall population of Jews are willing participants in the concocktion of the holocaust myth. In fact, most of them were lied to and aren't involved in all the evil Zionist plots that are run by the very small handful of powerful elites operating under the cover of being Jewish. But besides his lame hypothesis of "there is no such thing as evil, only group evolutionary strategy", I really enjoyed this piece of work.
I see what they're saying about the "gullibility of evil".
And how easy it is for the masses to be duped by tall tales of untold evil. Although if they seriously have the opinion bush sr. is just a gullible dupe, they have some more research to do.
The Amin story I've never heard, this is very interesting.
how the NWO hides behind ZION
Z\ON=N\NO
love this video! honestly though, read the protocols and tell me it doesn't sound exactly like the NWO plans if you remove the ethnic connotations...
protocols of the elders of zion
funny, just read those damn protocols (are they really a hoax?) but anyway this video rocks!!! it's hysterical. where did you come across this? the JMG is a very exclusive "club" apparently, according to David Freeman of Steve Hudson Ensemble, by invitation only. i picked up an excellent jazz/improv CD "Talat" from JMG at princeton record exchange.
yep, and laughter eases tensions
it was on opposing digits--the text of the protocols is underneath the video. i have no idea how much of a hoax, or what kind of a hoax, or if a hoax at all the protocols are. much of it certainly sounds like what happens in the world, whether or not the folks in charge are actually Zionists. It could be that it was a hoax intentionally put out so as to frame the debate about elite power in the world in antisemitic terms, which would of course be (and is) useful in deflecting any criticism of powerful criminals who just happen to be Jewish... anyway, I know the video is mocking the whole idea of taking the text seriously but as a born contrarian it just makes me more interested to study them!
exactly, contrarian, moi aussi
but i wonder what the neturei karta dudes would have to say, or maybe shmuel is neturei karta.
oh idoubt it
the video seems fairly pro-zionist...
diaspora and such
the "protocols" and the NK are pro-diaspora, although perhaps for different reasons.
by that do you mean...
that they favor Jews not having a "national home" ?
diaspora
from what i understand NK believes their talmud fobids them to return and form a country of israel, they are to remain in diaspora until.. ? (they also have deep sympathy for the the palestinians, and remember they attended the Ahmadinejad conferenc). i thought i read something in the protocols re: using the diaspora to their advantage.
that was excellent
thanks keenan! now you tell me--if the case against the Nazis was so strong, why gild the lily (as it were) with something as absurd as shrunken heads and lampshades? or if the case against Iraq was so good back in 91, why the need to invent the incubator story?
once you figured out that we
once you figured out that we have been lied to about 911 why would anyone think that they can trust what we have been told about ww2???
i cant stand it when people are scared to ask questions.. no one gets a free pass from me...
amen
anyone who takes al franken's word for what all the lies are and who all the lying liars that tell them are, well, must be a democrat!
Why gild the lily?
2 primary reasons I can think of:
1) Those parties fabricating atrocity stories about an official enemy are hiding or deflecting attention away from their own atrocities. In the case of WWII, the victors - US, Soviet Union, UK, Zionists - all were guilty of their own atrocities, so all had an interest in deflecting attention to the Nazis.
2) usually done during war-time propaganda and indicates that the official pretext for war is bull shit and there is a hiden agenda. In WWII, the official justification was to fight fascism or EVIL. Bull Shit! The allies themselves were fascist/fascistic or were previously (or secretly) supporting the Nazis as long as they were serving their interests. Oceana has always been at war with Eurasia! Eastasia is our friends! No, I mean we have always been at war with Eastasia and Eurasia is our ally! Yea, that's it!
but why fabricate evidence?
though number one is certainly a reason to draw attention to one's enemy's atrocities, it doesn't explain the need to fabricate stories like human skin lampshades or shrunken heads when supposedly there were plenty of real atrocities to focus on.
with number two i would say that there's probably some truth. when you've spent the entire war telling your people how noble your cause is because your enemy is just so inhuman, it helps to have some shocking "evidence" at some point to illustrate the fact. but agian, why use fake evidence if the real evidence is so compelling?
i guess what my answer would be is that it is necessary to invent evidence of atrocities when you are short on actual atrocities. though the conditions and deaths in german prsion camps were shocking, this need not incriminate the Germans if in fact those conditions and deaths occured primarily towards the end of the war when conditions throughout Germany were dismal. If your plan was to exterminate all these people why would you not just kill them all, especially those who would have been too weak to work on a subsistence diet (which is presumably what the emaciated liberated prisoners were being given?) Why not only keep alive as many prisoners as you could keep well fed and productive? It's the inherent inconsistency of the purported extermination plan with the reality uncovered upon the liberation of the camps that is a problem here.
Suppose the war had dragged on and the US was slowly crippled by a successful Axis war effort, and when the Japanese landed and liberated the Japanese Americans interned in camps in the US they found them languishing in horrible conditions? Suppose this had not been due to active efforts at being cruel by their American captors but because America had been decimated by the war. Would we be happy if the Japanese produced shrunken heads and human skin lampshades which they assured the world were produced from these Japanese people? And then went on to claim that America had exterminated all the Japanese people in the country except for the ones found starving in the abandoned camps? Would anyone in the victorious axis countries have the courage to say--whoa! shrunken heads? gimme a break! and hey, let's see some actual proof other than the testimony of the American generals and government leaders tortured by he Japanese military before accepting the truth of all these stories! Would we not feel the least bit ooutraged if on top of everything else our tax dollars were used to pay reparations to hundreds of thousands of Japanese families who claimed their loved ones had been exterminated by the evil Americans?