Albanese gets 911 "researchers" website pulled for threats and defamation of 911 widow
http://www.911blogger.com/node/9883
Good riddance, I couldn't stand nico, or rick, freaking idiots. I wish the space beam would atomize them.
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Albanese gets 911 "researchers" website pulled for threats and defamation of 911 widowhttp://www.911blogger.com/node/9883 Good riddance, I couldn't stand nico, or rick, freaking idiots. I wish the space beam would atomize them. |
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yawn
sorry, but this seems much too much like a conveniently scripted chapter designed to buttress the vanishing credibility of the Gold/Albanese/911blogger crowd. All along some of us have been saying that that entire blatant disinfo crowd was brought into being in order to provide the subtle disinfo (Gold/Albanese et al) with an easy straw-man to beat up on so as not to have to confront their genuine critics like poeple like yours truly here. Now that they have purified their ranks, they pull off a "coup" against the blatant disinfo crowd that only they ever seemed to care about? What are they going to start selling bridges on 911b now too? :D
Paranoid garbage!
What kind of 9/11 Truth advocate are you? Attacking your own because you’re too paranoid to see the wood for the trees? People like you do just as much damage to 9/11 Truth as an issue than any "No planes hit the WTC" disinfo garbage. Sickening.
[ok'd by c -- jess, is that you?]
my own?
since when did I become a member of the suspected subtle disinfo gang at 911blogger? by the way Annoymouse, do you have any thoughts on Alvin Hellerstein teling the victims' families that they have to let go of 9/11 and move on? I notice no one at 911B ever blogs about the man who has singlehandedly done the most to deny justice to victims families--now, why would that be? Could it be because he is a hardcore Zionist with dual loyalties?
jess?
As in me? No it's not me.
that's what cass calls albanese.
Must be an inside joke or something?
It's short for Jessica Albanese
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happiness is either here or nowhere
Good term snagged from 911b
in a post by Shigawire, who attributes it to the NSA: DDT for Decoy Distract Trash. I think that phrase is probably quite apt to describe some of these people.
I really need to see the facts on this
Because irregardless of whats happened over there, I find it offensive that you would say gold is some sort of zionist cover operative or something, the other two I don't even know about, albanese and arabesque. They weren't even around when I was heavy user of 911b.
my personal opinion?
my personal opinion? Albanese,Gold and Arabesuque might not be disinfo or "professionals" but all 3 of them are not to be trusted at all.
[c]
This has become of the "truth" movement?
Where we openly celebrate censorship of others? WTF is going on?
you obviously have never had to deal with nico or rick
They crossed their freedom of speech line a long time ago. Just because you can yell fire in a theater. doesn't mean there won't be repercussions
Umm, we are for TRUTH, right?
Having sites shut down is something The Powers That Be would do. Why are we celebrating this? It's wrong. You can choose to look at his site or not.
Why are people who are supposedly in the "truth" movement doing this? Why are people who I thought championed freedom of speech trying to have websites supporting 9/11 truth shut down? It doesn't make sense.
Nico and Killtown were once heroes of the movement? Now they're disinformation?
It's clear that this movement has been infiltrated by figures who wish to stop further research.
Do we OWN THE NWO by imitating them?
No one's celebrating...
Jessica is merely trying to distinguish herself by attacking strawmen, and Nico Haupt has never been a hero of this movement. Now please, quit whining or I'll set about 'ye. Not getting attention doesn't make anyone a martyr -- and not giving attention is all we're doing when it comes to the clowns at 911researchers.
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happiness is either here or nowhere
"not giving attention is all we're doing when it comes to the
clowns at 911researchers."
Apparently not, since members of our supposed truth movement are actively trying to shut down 911researchers.
People aren't "disinformation" just because you say or others say they are.
The truth is self-evident. Let THE PEOPLE DECIDE what is disinformation. Let us read the evidence. We don't need watchdogs, thank you very much.
[c]
But on what grounds is it being shut down?
Not for disseminating "disinfo" but because someone was stupid enough (it appears) to engage in some kind of legally actionable shenanigans interpreted as threatening to Ellen Mariani. That left the door wide open to the Albanator -- and who knows, he may well have had a hand in engineering the whole drama.
Would you support
someone shutting down WTCDEMOLITION.COM because a user "engaged in some kind of legally actionable shenanigans interpreted as threatening to (random name)."? What if WTCDEMOLITIONS.COM got shut down and some "patsystan" supporter was bragging about engineering it on 911blogger? I certainly wouldn't be happy about it.
It is clear something not right is going on.
[c]
It's not a matter of me supporting it.
Basically, if Albanese is behind it I have every reason to be deeply skeptical, and I don't have a problem with sites that pimp disinfo. I made my way through all the garbage when I started investigating 9/11 for myself -- Nico Haupt was one of the first identifiable figures I encountered! -- and didn't fall prey to the evil disinformationists, and I give others enough credit to do the same.
So it's not whether I support it, but whether someone did something that is giving Albanese legal grounds to take action. That was not a smart thing to do. I don't have any idea what was posted or where it was on that site, so I'm not even going to start with my own moral reckoning.
I was speaking rhetorically, but do you understand my point?
We can't shut down sites or condone such behavior FOR ANY REASON.
Doing so makes you IN FAVOR OF CENSORSHIP.
I'm glad you "didn't fall prey to the evil disinformationists". How dramatic...Also, such a statement CANNOT BE MADE when IN FACT we don't even know for sure who the disinformationists are.
There are people in this movement who are trying to limit further research. They are content with the evidence we have already gathered and call people who disagree with them "anti-semites" and "disinformation spreaders". This is a fact.
"Fire!" in a crowded theater...
There are legally recognized limits on free speech -- legal and moral limits. As I said, I don't know what was posted over there. Let's say hypothetically that it was an encouragement for people to physically harm someone, along with that person's address and other contact info. I don't consider objecting to that to be censorship. I'm not sure why the whole site would go down, but as in the case of the concern for "hate speech" over at the blogger, that sounds like a contractual issue between Siegal and his host company.
Yeah, and "the evil disinformationists" thing was just slightly tongue in cheek, but thanks for your concern.
Your argument is a fallacy
Yelling "Fire" in a crowded theater is a purposeful transparent sinister action.
Having a website about tvfakery/energy beams is not a purposeful transparent sinister action just because you think it is.
Has the "truth" movement gotten to the point where we are arguing when it is acceptable to limit free speech? How sad. Isn't this what the infiltrators want?
WAKE UP!
[c]
Uh, can you read?
Posting threats and personal information about an old lady is NOT purposefully transparent sinister action?
The site did not get taken down because it dealt with space beamery and directed video weapons. It got taken down -- AFAIK -- because some legal line was crossed that exposed the host company to liability. I think I'm with gretavo on this one -- it wouldn't surprise me if both the threats and the indignant response were scripted in the same disinfo cube farm, with instructions emailed to team members -- err, mortal enemies -- Seigal and Albanese.
So the actions of a few means a whole website should be
sacrificed. Sounds about right.
that is up to the hosting company
I can't imagine that if the owners of the site acted responsibly in removing illegal or offensive content the whole site would be shut down. that's part of the reason I can easily see this as just being manufactured drama to distract people from things like, oh, 9/11.
Why are you here
complaining nonstop about this incident that has absolutely NOTHING to do with this site? Go whine to Jessica!
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happiness is either here or nowhere
maybe because Alba's site (911b) is censoring him/her?
n/t
blah blah
coming here looking for sympathy for associates of nico haupt (who has previously shown up drunk to disrupt other people's meetings apparently) is a waste of time. whatever drama is being engineered or is actually occuring between LIHOPPERS and DISINFO CLOWNS is not something that concerns me, or that should concern any serious truther. If someone is irresponsible enough to give someone a fair case on which to demand their site be shut down then that's their problem--appeals to "truther unity" won't fly when the people involved on both sides of the drama have shown themselves to be as divisive as can be.
Guess what? Neutrality is a great way to avoid being pulled into pointless conglicts that do nothing but bring everyone down to a level of ineptitude that makes the real evildoers smile.
To everyone here who has the ability to moderate the anonymous comments, you are free to approve any and all posts you want, but I would encourage you not to buy into the whole "hey! you're censoring me!" argument unless you feel really guilty about it for some reason... :)
Heh, got it!
My patience was wearing thin, anyway...
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happiness is either here or nowhere
I consider Jessica as much a part of this movement
as I consider dog poo part of the shoe -- don't lump them together.
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come on man
No planes at the WTC? Give me a break. I will not lose sleep over this.
I'm not advocating any particular theory.
But I will advocate fighting for the opportunity to read any particular theory without fear that it will be censored.
Any person serious about finding the truth would feel the same way.
You haven't presented any theory
instead, you've spent your last couple of posts decrying the evils of censorship -- censorship you have only imagined. So, drop your guns, no one here condones censorship. And remember: not putting up with trash is NOT censorship.
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I...
Don't know where your information comes from, but I had absolutely nothing to do with this. I found out about it the same as you.
Jon Gold
my bad
yeah
Jon is right... it was Albanese according to the post
so I'm editing the title... apologies for the error.
i find it too funny
i find it too funny that gold would even post here.. ha!
he's welcome to
and in fact should not hesitate if, as in this case, factual errors involving him are made. Jon and I have every right and quite possibly every reason to dislike each other but we're not children. I take issue with most of what he does and reserve the right to express my opinion as to what it might mean (that he may be dishonest) and he has every right to express his opinion that I am a bigoted jew-hater out to destroy the truth movement. THAT is free speech. Making actual threats is not something I have ever know Jon to do to anyone nor something I would ever consider doing myself or allowing to be done. If there are people who claim to be truthers (kof kof Siegel and Haupt) who are getting themselves into trouble because they can't disagree responsibly, then screw them! Even the frikkin debunkers know better.