If we weren't obsessing over "Amerithrax", what would we be talking about?

gretavo's picture
Pervasive anti-arab/muslim bigotry in the 9/11 truth movement.
25% (2 votes)
The imminent release of the WTC7 report and the fake "gash video" they're going to rely on.
38% (3 votes)
The mysterious disappearance of Bruce1337.
13% (1 vote)
Would Obama or McCain be a better foil for a surging truth movement?
0% (0 votes)
Something else which I (you) will add in the comment section...
25% (2 votes)
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casseia's picture

I suspect bruce1337

is just busy -- he seems to drift off periodically.

larry horse's picture

this thing

casseia's picture

Yeah!

I read about that on another site... freaky, huh?

casseia's picture

Or how about

from the same site:

Giant Birds Are Back

North America has been haunted by giant birds for hundreds of years, and now there has been yet another series of sightings, this time in Nova Scotia. While scientists dismiss the idea that Teratornis, a gigantic prehistoric bird larger than a condor, could still exist, two weeks ago they would have laughed at the idea of there being 125,000 undiscovered gorillas in the Congo.

Or we could talk about the incredible gorilla population...

dicktater's picture

Turtle withou a shell?

???

I dunno.

gulu's picture

Dead pit bull

with a photoshop turtle head

larry horse's picture

chupacabra'a cousin

damn, someone get the sunscreen! he's roasting.

Tahooey's picture

I'm going with dead dog.

hey, is he giving us the finger? 

dicktater's picture

Mayor Calvo's black lab?

"Calvo insisted the couple's two black Labradors were gentle creatures and said police apparently killed them "for sport," gunning down one of them as it was running away."

http://tinyurl.com/65vgqz

Police raid Md. mayor's home and kill his dogs

BERWYN HEIGHTS, Md. (AP) -- Mayor Cheye Calvo got home from work, saw a package addressed to his wife on the front porch and brought it inside, putting it on a table. Suddenly, police with guns drawn kicked in the door and stormed in, shooting to death the couple's two dogs and seizing the unopened package.

In it were 32 pounds of marijuana. But the drugs evidently didn't belong to the couple.

Police say the couple appeared to be innocent victims of a scheme by two men to smuggle millions of dollars worth of marijuana by having it delivered to about a half-dozen unsuspecting recipients.

The two men under arrest include a FedEx deliveryman; investigators said the deliveryman would drop off a package outside a home, and the other man would come by a short time later and pick it up.

A furious Calvo said Thursday that he and his wife, Trinity Tomsic, are asking the U.S. Justice Department to investigate the July 29 raid.

"Trinity was an innocent victim and random victim," Calvo said outside his two-story, red-brick house in this middle-class Washington suburb of about 3,000 people. "We were harmed by the very people who took an oath to protect us."

Calvo insisted the couple's two black Labradors were gentle creatures and said police apparently killed them "for sport," gunning down one of them as it was running away.

"Our dogs were our children," said the 37-year-old Calvo. "They were the reason we bought this house because it had a big yard for them to run in."

The mayor, who was changing his clothes when police burst in, also complained that he was handcuffed in his boxer shorts for about two hours along with his mother-in-law, and said the officers didn't believe him when he told them he was the mayor. No charges were brought against Calvo or his wife, who came home in the middle of the raid.

Prince George's County Police Chief Melvin High said Wednesday that Calvo and his family were "most likely ... innocent victims," but he would not rule out their involvement, and he defended the way the raid was conducted. He and other officials did not apologize for killing the dogs, saying the officers felt threatened.

Police announced Wednesday they had arrested two men suspected in a plot to smuggle 417 pounds of marijuana, and seized a total of $3.6 million in pot. Investigators said the package that arrived on Calvo's porch had been sent from Los Angeles via FedEx, and they had been tracking it ever since it drew the attention of a drug-sniffing dog in Arizona.

Police intercepted it in Maryland, and an undercover detective posing as a deliveryman took it to the Calvo home.

Calvo's defenders - including the Berwyn Heights police chief, who said his department should have been alerted ahead of time - said police had no right to enter the home without knocking.

But officials insisted they acted within the law, saying the operation was compromised when Calvo's mother-in-law saw officers approaching the house and screamed. That could have given someone time to grab a gun or destroy evidence, authorities said.

Neighbors in Berwyn Heights, which Calvo described as "Mayberry inside the Capital Beltway," have rallied around the couple. On Sunday night, supporters gathered on a ballfield to pay tribute to the family and the dogs. A banner on the wooden fence around Calvo's yard read, "Cheye and Trinity, We support you, Friends and Citizens of Berwyn Heights." Around it were dozens of handwritten messages from supporters.

In addition to being the part-time mayor, Calvo works at a nonprofit foundation that runs boarding schools. His wife is a state finance officer.

"When all of this happened I was flabbergasted," said next-door neighbor Edward Alexander. "I was completely stunned because those dogs didn't hurt anybody. They barely bark."

The case is the latest embarrassment for Prince George's County officials. A former police officer was sentenced in May to 45 years in prison for shooting two furniture deliverymen at his home last year, one of them fatally. He claimed that they attacked him. In June, a suspect jailed in the death of a police officer was found strangled in his cell.

Calvo said he was astonished that police have not only failed to apologize, but declined to clear the couple's names.

His wife spoke through tears as she described an encounter with a girl who used to see the couple walking their dogs.

"She gave me a big hug and she said, `If the police shot your dogs dead and did this to you, how can I trust them?'" Tomsic said. "I don't want people to feel like that. I just want them to be proud of our police and proud to live in Prince George's County."

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"But truthfully, I don't really know. We've had trouble getting a handle on Building No. 7."
~~ Dr. Shyam Sunder - Acting Director Building and Fire Research Laboratory (NIST)

gretavo's picture

speaking of repulsive creatures in the desert...

the other thing we might be discussing is the imminent declaration by John McCain of Joe Lieberman being his running mate. On Glenn Beck last night (I was channel surfing looking for vintage tennis I swear) Glenn and some right wing pastor dude were talking about how partisanship is the problem and how Americans are sick of partisanship and how the problem is those partisans who prevent us from coming together. This is called laying the ground before catapulting the propaganda...

dicktater's picture

eeeeeeYikes!

McfrankenCain and Liebermonster

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"But truthfully, I don't really know. We've had trouble getting a handle on Building No. 7."
~~ Dr. Shyam Sunder - Acting Director Building and Fire Research Laboratory (NIST)

Scary Israeli's picture

photoshoppery

is to being responsible for the decayance appearing of Vice P---er, President McCain.

dicktater's picture

photoshoppery?

Nothing to do with excelerated decrepitude?

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"But truthfully, I don't really know. We've had trouble getting a handle on Building No. 7."
~~ Dr. Shyam Sunder - Acting Director Building and Fire Research Laboratory (NIST)

dicktater's picture

NIST - Answers to Frequently Asked Questions (August 30, 2006)

14. Why is the NIST investigation of the collapse of WTC 7 (the 47-story office building that collapsed on Sept. 11, 2001, hours after the towers) taking so long to complete? Is a controlled demolition hypothesis being considered to explain the collapse?

"yada yada yada"

http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/factsheets/faqs_8_2006.htm

I assume that this FAQs page hasn't been updated since August 30, 2006.

NIST Status Update on World Trade Center 7 Investigation
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
June 29, 2007
http://www.nist.gov/public_affairs/releases/wtc_062907.html

Immediately over a year ago, that is.

"Updated information with the specific date for the public release of the NIST team's draft report will be posted on the WTC investigation Web site, http://wtc.nist.gov "

Yeah, right.

--
"But truthfully, I don't really know. We've had trouble getting a handle on Building No. 7."
~~ Dr. Shyam Sunder - Acting Director Building and Fire Research Laboratory (NIST)

gretavo's picture

the "wtc7 gash" video

Be ready folks--NIST probably leaked some info about their report as a trial balloon to see what kinds of arguments they would be confronted with about the gash. I would say the best thing for us to do is research it individually and prepare our best arguments WITHOUT discussing them online. They are likely delaying their release in order to be able to quickly respond to any objections to this gash BS. I will just ask this--did anyone mention the gash before these "new gash videos" started coming out in the last couple of years?


gretavo's picture

ABC owns this footage...

And ABC was bought by DIsney when it was run by Michael Eisner.... Here is an article by Chris Bollyn that contains some important info about Eisner and other "media moguls"... excerpt below:

ARNON MILCHAN - MOSSAD'S MAN IN THE MIDDLE

If one considers the known evidence of Israeli prior knowledge of 9-11, the Odigo text messages and the 5 arrested Mossad agents, for example, as indicative of Israeli state involvement in the crime, the identity of the occult power behind the cover-up is rather obvious.

The "hidden hand" suppressing the information about 9-11 would have to be a high-level person in the Israeli political-military intelligence establishment who also has very close relations with media kingpins like Murdoch, Levin, and Eisner.

Arnon Milchan (a.k.a. Milchen) is such a person.

While millions of Americans have watched his films, such as Pretty Woman and JFK, very few know that Arnon Milchan is a "best friend" of Shimon Peres (born Szymon Perski in Wiśniewo, Poland) the current Israeli president and godfather of Israel's nuclear arsenal.

Peres, is widely regarded as the architect of Israel's nuclear weapons programme. (Milchan is also good friends of Ehud Barak and Benjamin Netanyahu.)

Milchan's 40-year friendship with Peres, the man who oversaw the construction of Israel's nuclear weapon program is key to understanding Milchan's career as an undercover operative, weapons procurer, and film producer.

The fact that Milchan, the Hollywood producer, has been Israel's "foremost weapons procurer" for decades, brokering deals for "everything from nuclear triggers to rocket fuel to guidance systems," is seldom mentioned in the U.S. news media.

This is probably due to the fact that Milchan is also a "best friend" and business partner of Rupert Murdoch. He is also a friend a business partner with Levin (Warner Brothers) and Eisner.

"I consider him one of my best friends," Milchan said about Murdoch, "and I think vice versa. We're having a ball. He's a very cool guy."

"Kingpins like Warner Bros.' Gerald Levin and Disney's Michael Eisner are quick to return his calls," the American Jewish journalist Ann Louise Bardach wrote about Milchan in her article "The Last Tycoon" in April 2000.

In 1997, after a six-year relationship with Warner Bros., Milchan became a partner with Murdoch, selling him 20 percent of his film company, New Regency Productions, for $200 million. Murdoch also invested another $30 million in Regency Television. Today, Murdoch's equity partnership with Milchan is close to 50 percent.

"Milchan's deal with Fox also assures him a level of financial security," Bardach wrote. "With Murdoch's $200 million investment and a subsequent $600 million line of credit from a team of banks led by Chase Manhattan, Milchan is well into mogul territory.

"Milchan's tony offices occupy most of Building 12, right next door to the Executive Building on the Fox lot," Bardach wrote. "And it is from this seat of power that Milchan is building an entertainment empire that could one day rival Murdoch's."

THE MILCHAN INFLUENCE

The Israeli influence in films and news media has profoundly affected the quality of news reporting and entertainment. Israeli attitudes and ideas are now disseminated through national media outlets which reach the entire U.S. population on a daily basis. Israeli-made films often reveal hints or clues about actual crimes or criminal plans the Israeli producers are aware of.

One such project, The Lone Gunman, produced by Milchan's "best friend" Rupert Murdoch, had a uncanny resemblance to the 9-11 attacks on the World Trade Center. Was this Milchan's influence?

The Milchan-Murdoch partnership in television production may be key to understanding the genesis of the plot of the pilot episode of this short-lived television series. In the first episode a passenger airliner is hijacked by remote control and flown toward the World Trade Center. Disaster is averted at the last minute by over-riding the computer program that has hijacked the plane.

The Lone Gunman, produced by Rupert Murdoch in 2000, revealed a extremely uncanny prescience of 9-11. During the same year it was made, Milchan was producing two television series in collaboration with Fox Television, Roswell, which aired on Warner Brothers network, and Malcolm in the Middle, which was aired on Fox. The Lone Gunman pilot episode aired on FOX Television in March 2001.

Given the long, close, and extensive collaboration between Murdoch and Milchan it seems fair to ask: Was Arnon Milchan the original source of the plotline for the Lone Gunman?

Why were the people involved in the production of this episode not investigated in the media? Why did the media ignore its own uncanny prescience, the Lone Gunman episode, which mirrored reality 6 months later?

Was the similarity between the Murdoch-produced show and reality too close for comfort? Was it too uncomfortable to discuss the origin of the idea for the show? Apparently so.

In Milchan's highly-controversial film JFK (1991), directed by Oliver Stone, the assassination of President John F. Kennedy is ascribed to conspirators within the U.S. military-industrial complex. Whose idea was this? Why is Arnon Milchan's own criminal connection with Itzhak Rabin, who was in Dallas on the day Kennedy was shot, not an issue here?

In his futuristic film Brazil (1985), directed by Terry Gilliam, terrorist explosions go off in cafes for not apparent reason, very much like the seemingly senseless terrorism that plagues occupied Iraq. Is this Milchan's influence?

"Anyone closely associated with Peres pretty well must be satanic," Barry Chamish, a Canadian-Israeli wrote, "but Milchan produced a film that shows he has insider information. Chamish advises his readers to watch The Devil's Advocate with Al Pacino to "understand the implication."

"Milchan runs his company like a family business. Heading up New Regency Productions for him is his childhood friend David Matalon, whose parents were best friends with Milchan's," Bardach wrote. "Daughter Alexandra [Milchan-Lambert] is vice president of production in Los Angeles."

Matalon has served as president and CEO of New Regency Productions since 1995.

In 1986, Matalon, an Israeli co-founder of Tri-Star pictures, released a film entitled Iron Eagle, in which the aerial combat scenes were filmed entirely with the Israeli Air Force. The plot of this film is about how a few teenagers are able to steal U.S. military aircraft, codes, and information from under the noses of the military brass and run an entire military operation in which they bomb Libya without the knowledge of the military command. This film gives some indication of the kind of projects, and ideas, the Israeli military has collaborated on with their fellow Israelis in Hollywood.

Jpass's picture

Interesting...

What would be the purpose of disseminating actual intelligence and plans in the form of movies and film?

I imagine that people sub-consciously log tid-bits of information they've been exposed to and, over time, when these events happen, we could be more apt to believe the explanations we are then given...in fact...we already know the explanations.

Or maybe it's just arrogance. Or maybe it's not even the Israelis acting out the script but a third party sort of hiding behind the idea that Israeli commandos are ruthless muther fuckers who are so arrogant to place their diabolical plans in movies.