WTCD to LIVE BLOG the Trial of the Century on Thursday June 10th

gretavo's picture

Never have so many done so much to accomplish so little. One June 10th, the heroism of Jon Gold will go on display in a Washington courtroom where he will seek to avoid punishment for his feeble attempt to put his body between the gears of the war machine by walking across a police line, sitting down, and then getting up when the police asked him to.

A surprise special correspondent will be there to bring you the play by play right here--don't miss this TRULY HYSTERI--er, HISTORICAL MOMENT!!

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casseia's picture

Trial of the century postponed

Damn, that means another round of travel/hotel/room service expenses for the site!

gretavo's picture

I think that might have been disinfo

to make us miss it. Loose Stool is there, however, and says it's on.

Loose Stool's picture

well, I'm at McD's at the mo....

trial is scheduled to start a little after 9... ugh--gotta run.

Loose Stool's picture

Sorry I'm late...

I had to take care of some last minute business... OK so it looks like nothing much has happened... wait--someone just said "all rise" I have to stand up I guess and--oh god. OK mind over matter... here comes the judge...

Loose Stool's picture

here's a pic... she looks familiar...

Loose Stool's picture

OK here come the perps...

There's Cindy Sheehan, and following behind her are the others. I don't see Jon Gold with them... hmmm...

Loose Stool's picture

ok apparently...

he fainted on his way in. looks like they need some help to carry him in...

Loose Stool's picture

OK he's coming in...

my god, they must have been mistreating him--he looks awful... they've sat him down--he's looking around to see who came out to support him--meaning me. Oh he sees me, lemme grab a pic...

Loose Stool's picture

the judge doesn't seem too happy

She just asked the bailiff if he handed her the right docket--says she thought she was going to be hearing something billed as the trial of the century by the nation's dissidents... but this just looks "stupid".

Loose Stool's picture

Judge Judy takes issue with Gold's countersuit

She says she's not sure what Saudi Arabia and Pakistan have to do with anything, and has thrown it out. Evil Muslims 1, Jon Gold 0...

Loose Stool's picture

the other defendants have filed a motion

to be tried separately from Jon Gold, who they claim not to know. they say that they only ever saw him before the day of the protest on brief occasions when he would show up with a photographer (a bald guy with a big beard) to take his picture with them...

Loose Stool's picture

alright the Judge has granted the motion...

and called a recess, thank GOD. looks like court will adjourn again in 30 minutes. ok i gotta, uh, run. i'll be back!

Loose Stool's picture

OK we're back...

so right as the recess began Jon Gold told the Judge that his cuffs and orange jumsuit were "very uncomfortable" and asked permission to change into regular clothes. She said "if I grant your motion will you at least stop crying?" Gold promised to stop crying and changed during the break...

Loose Stool's picture

SURPRISE MOVE by Team Gold!!

This is awesome! Gold has called Alan Dershowitz to testify in his defense. This is going to be good!!

Loose Stool's picture

hmmm...

so it turns out Dershowitz isn't actually here--he is going to be providing his testimony via satellite...

Loose Stool's picture

videotape actually... ok its playing now...

Loose Stool's picture

Dershowitz's testimony

"Your honor, my client is the victim of an anti-semitic witch hunt. As you know, Israel has offered the Palestinians peaceful solutions over and over again, but the Palestinians hate Jewish children more than they love their own children. Because of this, I move that all charges against my client be dropped so that he or she can get on with his or her life. Thank you. Oh, and the holocaust. Thank you."

Loose Stool's picture

F--ing BRILLIANT

take THAT, crypto Nazis!! woooot!!

Loose Stool's picture

uh oh...

Judge Judy doesn't seem to be as moved as I am by Dershowitz's eloquent statement in Jon's defense...

And I quote: "Mr. Gold, look at me--I said LOOK AT ME! Do I look stupid to you? SHUT UP! No I don't. I have more brains in my little finger than you do in that quivering mass you call a body. Now get on with your plea before I have bailiff here schlep you back to jail."

OK, could have been worse...

Loose Stool's picture

she just...

... nixed the next scheduled witness, Abe Foxman (via YouTube...)

Loose Stool's picture

Gold has called for another adjournment...

... to re-assess his defense given the latest developments... Judge Judy has granted it, so looks like it's back to the porcelain throne for me...

Loose Stool's picture

back...

OK people are coming back in, the Judge is taking her seat... looks like something is up...

Loose Stool's picture

she's making a statement...

I'll transcribe it best I can...

"Alright I don't know who the joker was who sent me this case, but I've had about enough. Jon Gold, you are charged with a series of counts stemming from what is described as an attempt to, and I quote 'put your body between the gears of the machine' to 'oppose the criminal actions of the American imperialists'. Now obviously you did no such thing because here you are wasting my and everyone else's time. I hereby find you not guilty of those charges. However I find you guilty of the following: 1) being a jackass. 2) posturing and posing with genuine activists to pursue a campaign of self-promotion. 3) misrepresenting yourself as a 9/11 truther in order to promote LIHOP crap and buttress the flagging Islamofascist myth. 4) self-obsession to the point of believing that honest 9/11 truthers are in fact part of a government operation to malign you. And 5) using and abusing the memory of the victims of 9/11, their families, and those made sick by exposure to toxins from the illegal demolition of the WTC to protect the real perpetrators of that crime. Case dismissed, this court is adjourned!"

casseia's picture

Phew... thank god.. we can get on with our lives.

Which for me means going to Best Buy to replace the wireless keyboard I just spewed coffee all over while laughing.

gretavo's picture

yes, thanks Loose Stool!

Great job on the live blog. I'm glad this terrible ordeal is over.

Keenan's picture

LOL! A big thanks to pecial correspondent Loose Stool...

for giving us a play by play (blow by blow) live reporting of the Tinkerbell...I mean, Jon Gold Shill stunt of the Century Charade...I mean trial. Gretavo, where did you find this mild bowel mannered reporter to be our special correspondent? Great to have him aboard, though he kind of reminds me of someone that also make me think of bowel movements...

Anyway, great laughs, though my laptop has to be cleaned and dried now from all the coffee I spewed on it...

gretavo's picture

Thank you.

Thank you.

Adam Syed's picture

I can't stop laughing!

This has me rolling! Laughing

gretavo's picture

Thank you.

Thank you.

casseia's picture

From a site which shall not be named...

or given attribution, because they don't deserve it:

Jon Gold, on his upcoming trial for the heinous and no doubt capital crime of crossing a police line gives us this breathless update:

"My personal psyop is threatening to show up to this. Why is it most of my "enemies" are those who claim to fight for truth, accountability and justice for the 9/11 attacks (even though they don't)? I bet this has something to do with it."

Well, Jon, first of all I'm disappointed to hear that I'm not your personal psy-op. Crap, who have we got on you? Oh, her? But she's one of the--forget I said that.

Not to fear, someone's going to be there to protect Jon:

"I'll be there with video camera- HQ wants me to keep an eye on Jon Gold."

Yes, and then be sure to [redacted because it goes just a little too far --c455] Errr, I mean, of him, of course.

I mean, seriously. Does anybody really think that Jon Gold is somehow a dangerous individual? If you buy the Troofers' theories for a moment, who is most dangerous to the "official story"? Generally, Griffin, (Steven and Alex) Jones and Gage, I would say, with arguments to be made by Avery, Fetzer, Sofia, Hufschmid, Meyssan and Meserlian. But on any sane scale Gold is way down on the totem pole. Of course, to the paranoid that is precisely the problem; they are not prominent enough to garner attention if they are murdered but they are prominent enough that their deaths would silence others, nay, have silenced others

To the tune of Depeche Mode's "Personal Jesus"

Your own personal psy-op
Someone who feeds you lies
Someone who spies
Your own personal psy-op
Someone to mess with your head
Someone you dread

Feeling a wreck and you're scared as heck
300 pounds and you have no neck
You're a troof believer
And I am your deceiver

doon doon-doon-doon doon-doon-doon...

casseia's picture

For sing-alongs

gretavo's picture

John "the original sockpuppeteer" Albanese responds

i mean - here you are Jon making public appearances with Cindy Sheehan - getting arrested for the cause - and gaining the trust of the victim's families and first responders - and organizing events that are covered on Nightline, including real governmental whistleblowers, ex FBI agents and members of the military.

I thought Betsy Metz organized that event--but I'm sure Albanese knows better, and it makes a lot more sense that the conference was organized by Gold's handlers as a vehicle for him and Betsy was just used to make that less obvious.

what do you care what is said by some leeches on some obscure website. there are billions of websites out there with countless numbers of idiots, clowns and morons participating on everything from UFO forums to Jesus Hates Fags websites to neo-nazi clubs and kiddie porn portals. it is an ugly virtual world out there!!

what makes this particular group so important to you?

that we are right and he knows it, and we're ruining his schemes

the fact that they talk about you?

to who? to themselves!! who cares? you have TONS of credibility compared to them. anyone spending more than a minute on their website can see thru their silly bullshit - and i don't see THEM out there raising money for first responders or landing in jail for opposing the war.

yep, we do nothing. of course I *was* out protesting the war and supporting Cindy Sheehan before Gold decided associating with her would be good for his image... that was, let's see...2002-2004 before dedicating myself to 9/11 truth specifically...

i understand your frustration. there was a time when i would habitually scan the disinfo sites - like Haupt's and Rick Siegel's - to find my name and see what was being said. it nearly ate me up alive. it gave them power over me. if they succeeded in making me angry - or scared - they were winning.

every MINUTE you spend reading Gretavo's disinfo site is a MINUTE lost for the cause.

do you have any idea how you could improve the quality of your life if you just let go and stopped visiting their website?

think about it. you are as close as this movement comes to a national leader. That makes you a target. but you can't concern yourself with every bit of garbage that circulates about you. that's the price we pay. and you should not - under any circumstanes -dignify them with a response.

so on the one hand, Gold is the closest thing to a national leader of 9/11 truth (i'll pause for people to finish laughing their asses off at that one) and on the other, I'm somehow unfairly picking on him, getting little boners for him, whatever. which is it? is Gold significant enough to focus on or not? the debunkers don't seem to think so... they say Griffin, the Joneses, and Gage, and excluding Alex Jones from that I think most people would agree that Jon Gold isn't in their league. he is however, prominent among the fake truthers, and also keeps pretty busy, not appearing to have an actual job, like most of the truthaction people...

juandelacruz's picture

Jon Gold, a national leader

Jon Gold, a national leader of 9/11 truth? If he was, I quit. However he only imagines himself to be one and tries his best to appear leader like.

There are no leaders, Gage is perhaps the closest but he leads only a specific group, AE911. DRG and Steven Jones are superb researchers but not leaders either.

Jon Gold is a disinfo agent who tries to get close to well known personalities to gain some cred but is otherwise totally discredited that he even left 9-11blogger, a place moderated to protect him and his disinfo agenda. Jon Gold is a failure except perhaps as a time waster which he has done so well at.

Adam Syed's picture

Catch me up...

What sockpuppeteering is Albanese known for? I'm curious.

Still laughing by the way! Laughing

Annoymouse's picture

Albanese was exposed for sockpuppetry on 911Blogger in 2006

This sleezebag actually posted under a fake name on 911Blogger to argue against the evidence for molten metal at the WTC that was coming out in late 2006.

http://911blogger.com/node/4519?page=1

He was utilizing identical debunker arguments that all the professional debunkers were using, such as claiming that molten aluminum looks the same as steel when it melts - a yellow orange (molten aluminum in fact looks silvery when melted) and that it must have been the aluminum from the plane that melted.

When he was busted, he attempted to justify his slimy behavior by claiming that he had to go undercover in order to test Real Truther (Gretavo), who was calling out the LIHOPper's BS and not letting them get away with their anti-truth crap.

http://911blogger.com/news/2006-11-16/firefighter-describes-molten-metal...

Even more hilarious was how Albanese then pulled out one of the most common tactics in the fake truther bullshit repertoire and resigned from 911Blogger after being exposed as a pathetic fraud:

"if Blogger cannot provide a forum that is non-threatening and non-insulting to those of us who seek to debate the issues - then i see no point in continuing to attempt to contribute here.

i will be saying my farewell to Blogger. i think ultimately Real Truther - and others here - is an embaressment to this movement."

LOL! What a worthless piece of degenerate scum this Albanese character is.

gretavo's picture

haha yeah those were the days...

2006, wow! thanks for dredging up that classic, AM! Interesting... all the comment ratings were reset to 0, probably during their recent site upgrade. I'm pretty sure I saved a bunch of these exchanges way back when on my computer--Albanese was pwned...

gretavo's picture

man... more from John Anonbanesemous

WOW. Of course we know where this molten steel came from...

Thanks to popular mechanics, who assure us that the fact that the rubble pile fires were covered means they were not cooled by the air. This means, according to PM, that they could get hotter and hotter and hotter and hotter until BOOM--the melting point of steel (2750 degrees Fahrenheit) was reached by the burning office chairs and paper. I know it sounds nutty, but John McCain signed off on their book, so it must be true--he's a straight shooter after all.

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Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero

WTCdemolition.com - Harvard Task Force

Submitted by Real Truther on Thu, 11/16/2006 - 2:13pm.
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Perfect Example

You have turned “molten metal” into “molten steel.”

Steel was not the only metal present. Iron and lead and aluminum all melt at much lower temperatures.

But don’t let accuracy get in the way of forwarding your theories.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 11/16/2006 - 2:36pm.
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it doesn't matter what it

it doesn't matter what it was. If it was hot enough to glow and flow like lava the energy came from a source greater than office fires. Sorry bud. I'm not in the mood for people like you. Go fuck yourself man.
Submitted by Researcher488 (not verified) on Thu, 11/16/2006 - 2:46pm.
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Go fuck myself?

Isn’t this the main criticism against you guys? You do not care to have honest debates – but rather choose to bully and insult anyone who might have FACTS that embarrass you?

Normal building fires and hydrocarbon (e.g., jet fuel) fires generate temperatures up to about 1100 degrees Celsius (2000 degrees Fahrenheit).

The melting point of aluminum is 660 degrees Celsius (1,220 degrees Fahrenheit).

There was tons of aluminum in the WTC.

This video only reports “molten metal”

This is why no one takes you seriously. Go ahead – attack and insult me for presenting facts.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 11/16/2006 - 3:07pm.
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Anonymous, where are you getting your information?

And if it's that bogus "fire engineering" webpage from the "University of Manchester" then please try to corroborate it somewhere else. Normal building fires generate temperatures of 2000 degrees F??? What the Fahrenheit?! You need to check that buddy. Aluminum is silvery when molten, not orange hot like lava (as mentioned by the firefighter) or well, molten steel. Is lava silvery now? These aren't facts that embarrass us, these are facts that you can't explain with your evil muslim fixation blocking your thought processes. Why not be honest and desire the whole truth like we do? Why do you think it's OK to deceive yourself about basic scientific facts? Have you even read the FEMA report? Start with appendix C, where they talk about the odd melting of steel from building 7. They also found sulfidation on melted parts of that steel. Sulfur is used in thermate to make the steel melt at a lower temperature. Why can't you address these issues?

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Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero

WTCdemolition.com - Harvard Task Force

Submitted by Real Truther on Thu, 11/16/2006 - 3:19pm.
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more insults

a sure sign of a weak mind and low IQ.

Here is a picture of what red hot aluminum looks like.

http://www.metalwebnews.com/howto/furnace2/furnace-2.jpg

again - you claim expertize in an area you do not possess. and again - personal insults are a sure fire way of intentionally disrupting.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 11/16/2006 - 3:33pm.

gretavo's picture

more

right, from your own source...

http://www.metalwebnews.com/howto/casting/foundry-practice.pdf

That's the part on casting aluminum. Notice all the aluminum in that document is silvery in its liquid state. Can you provide the link you used in context so we can see what the description of that picture is that you claim to be aluminum?

Insults? You mean like "poor spelling is a sign of a low IQ, or lack of expertiSe in the english language?" Like that, shill?

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Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero

WTCdemolition.com - Harvard Task Force

Submitted by Real Truther on Thu, 11/16/2006 - 3:50pm.
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a sure sign of a weak mind and low IQ indeed

That picture shows metal at at least 1080C. And seems to be requiring a furnace of sorts to get it to that temp. Maybe you and your high IQ can explain how building fires which do not get hot enough to make metal glow, left all this glowing and flowing metal?

Read my post below. Fires did not get above 600C according to NIST.
Submitted by Researcher488 (not verified) on Thu, 11/16/2006 - 4:07pm.
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NIST?

you are using NIST as a source?

interesting.

so the molten steen was under 600 degrees?

hmmmm
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 11/16/2006 - 4:27pm.
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Silly shill, NIST refers in its report to the fires, not steel.

Which is precisely why we assert that thermite or something similar was used to melt the steel. the jet fuel fires did not burn hot enough, according to NIST itself. The whole point of the NIST and FEMA reports is that they are mostly accurate and honest with facts--it's the conclusions they claim to be able to draw that are incomplete and/or suspect.

So yes, the point here is that steel did melt, but clearly not because of the jet fuel fires. We can't say we understand what happened to the buildings if we don't explain the molten steel. And if it wasn't molten steel, then why doesn't Popular Mechanics say so? Why do they make an absurd claim as to how they think it got there? Why not just say it wasn't steel? Hm?

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Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero

WTCdemolition.com - Harvard Task Force

Submitted by Real Truther on Thu, 11/16/2006 - 4:59pm.
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I think you are intentionally stupid

as a way of discrediting everyone who seeks the truth.

Calling people shills and twisting people's questions and words makes you HARMFUL to goals of seeking the truth.

You in one post call NIST a coverup - and in the next use them as your sourse.

You assert YOU know all the truths about everything and beat down ANY attempts to even play devil advocate - to debate the issue - to SEE if what we are asserting is true./

Nico Haupt uses the word shill almost as much as you.

Its good company you keep.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 11/16/2006 - 5:10pm.
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Anon: you seem to have lost the whole view of this matters...

foreknwoledge, lack of air response, war games, wtc7, motive, lack of will to investigate, etc, etc, etc...

Having all this, when a person without any prejudice stumbles upon such evidence like molten metal he should definately call for another investigation... Think whatever you want, but don't "cover it up", ok?
Submitted by salvi (not verified) on Thu, 11/16/2006 - 6:19pm.
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that's right

why would the NIST talk about heat that somehow got metal to red hot tempertures when they are trying to explain the collapses in terms of a fire theory.
I think that's one of there ommissions of evidence among much selective presentation of the facts.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 11/16/2006 - 6:14pm.
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NIST ain't honest with facts.

They lie straight out.

And Fudge the data. And don't release the data their results are based upon.

They are in Magic-bullet land.
Submitted by Peggy Carter on Thu, 11/16/2006 - 9:47pm.
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You Are Laughable.

Not an insult, just a fact.

http://8real.proboards104.com/index.cgi?board=phony&action=display&threa...

https://www.aws.org/cgi-bin/mwf/topic_show.pl?tid=9621
Submitted by Big_D (not verified) on Fri, 11/17/2006 - 6:54am.
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Thanks Big_D, no wonder John ignored requests for source of pic!

Just to be clear, the links BigD posted are in fact discussing the picture that John Albanese posted here as Anonymous claiming they showed molten aluminum glowing orange. See below from the thread BigD linked to. If anyone needs more proof that John Albanese is dishonest, and that his film Everybody's Gotta Learn Sometime is a LIHOP piece of crap, I think this post and its discussion proves that beyond a doubt. see below:

I figured I would conclude this discussion because I have talked with Stephen D.Chastain (the person who took these 2 pictures)

http://www.metalwebnews.com/howto/furnace2/furnace-2.jpg

http://www.metalwebnews.com/howto/furnace2/furnace.jpg

I can now safely say, I was right all a long, it is IRON. I am sorry if I took some of you for a wild ride but the person that presented these photos as "aluminum" is very intelligent and credible, so it was hard to disagree, but I did, and I was right!

Thank you guys for all your responses. I will probably be back to see what is going on every now and then. Maybe I will start another discussion Until then, God Bless and take care.

Brian

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Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero

WTCdemolition.com - Harvard Task Force

Submitted by Real Truther on Fri, 11/17/2006 - 7:42am.
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What "Anonymous"

What "Anonymous" demonstrated was that you fly off the handle when anyone questions CD. You're clearly emotionally invested in the theory and not rational on the subject.

And I think CD is a real possiblity, especially regarding WTC 7.

Denouncing the evidence of foreknowlege and the ISI connection is either a tactical error or a way intentional sabotage.
Submitted by misterguy on Fri, 11/17/2006 - 2:44pm.

Adam Syed's picture

Cool, thanks for enlightening me

"My role is to study the cultural phenomenon of the 9/11 truth movement..."

Nuff said.

Keenan's picture

Oops, that was me that posted as Annoymouse above

I forgot to log in. I wasn't trying to pull a John Albanese, honest!

Adam Syed's picture

"Thank you. Oh, and the holocaust. Thank you."

I couldn't resist the urge to bump up the thread that's given me the greatest 9/11 truth laugh in my 6 years of activism. That was some truly brilliant satire!