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What's up with Prof. Jones joining forces with disinfo king extraordinaire Jim Hoffman?

This has been bugging me for a while. After the split up of the Scholars for 9/11 Truth organization, which seems to have been precipitated by the falling out between Prof Steven Jones and Prof Jim Fezter, Prof Jones joined Jim Hoffman in founding a new organization called Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice, with a new web site http://stj911.org that features Jim Hoffman's disinformation about the Pentagon attack, containing only cherry-picked evidence and other dishonest arguments by Hoffman, but none of the contrary evidence (Jones used to unequivocally dispute the official story of AA77 hitting the Pentagon). What's up with that?

There was almost no one else in the 9/11 Truth Movement I respected more than Prof. Jones. On the other hand, there is almost no one in the 9/11 Truth movement I despize more than Jim Hoffman.

E Vero's picture

Whodunnit?

Whodunnit?

I think that Bush is part of a crime family, but like all mafia, there are sometimes turf-wars. This time, the Bush Crime Family got outfoxed by another crime family. It seems reasonable to gather all the information we have about ALL the likely perpetrators of 9/11. Who could the criminals be? Let's see . . .

-who had spies in our country living next to the supposed hijackers?

-who was captured celebrating in view of the attacks, who had vans with explosives, cash, box-cutters, other people's passports?

-who failed lie-detector tests but were quietly allowed to leave the country on "visa violations?"

-who would like to pin the blame on Saudi Arabia?

-who called for a "new pearl harbor?"

-who wrote about the need to "secure the realm?" (bonus point: where is that realm?)

-who took ownership (with insurance terrorist rider) of the Twin Towers shortly before 9/11?

-who took out put options on the United and American Airlines?

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Norman Finkelstein Denied Tenure at DePaul

http://www.counterpunch.org/christison06132007.html

As reported by Bill Christison, former CIA analyst who (at least claims) to be a truther. Yet he also allows Counterpunch to publish his columns. And Finkelstein? Great guy, but not a truther. Still, denying him tenure speaks volumes about the influence of the Israel Lobby.

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New Paul Craig Roberts Column is a Must Read!

The neoconservatives have rewritten US war doctrine to permit preemptive US nuclear attack on non-nuclear countries . They have demonized Iran as the greatest threat since Hitler. Neoconservatives have invented "Islamofascism," something that exists only in the neoconservative propaganda used to instill in Americans hatred of Muslims. The neoconservatives have dehumanized Muslims as monsters who must be destroyed at all costs. Recent statements by neoconservative leaders such as Norman Podhoretz read like the ravings of ignorant lunatics. Podhoretz has written Muslims out of the human race. He demands that their culture be deracinated.

read the whole thing at: http://www.vdare.com/roberts/070611_threat.htm

One question-- Why does Paul Craig Roberts allow his columns to be published by Counterpunch, given that CP's editors are anti-Truth and censor his 9/11 related columns?

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The Googlian Knot

This is something I wrote before Google went public... a comment on the recent open thread at 911B about Google censorship and their "do no evil" motto prompted me to repost...

Thursday, August 12, 2004

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The Googlian Knot

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WTCDEMO Exclusive Scoop! The Nation to run hit piece linking 9/11 Truth Movement to Right Wing

OK so I decided to sit in Harvard Square for a while after work today with my truth now sign and some pamphlets. A kid, maybe 17 or 18, wearing a red Che shirt stops to chat.

He tells me he has a friend who is an intern for the Nation and that he is working on a piece that will "expose" the ties between the 9/11 Truth movement to the right wing. He mentioned specifically "that movie you have coming out", and playing dumb I said "what movie? we have lots..." Loose Change, he said.

Aha...

Well, I told him, I don't really think Loose Change is necessarily legit so it wouldn't surprise me, and proceeded to explain to him that there was a real truth movement and a fake one. And you're part of the real one he said. Yup.

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Why is there no room to question Israel – even when it kills Americans – in the halls of Congress?

Time for the truth about the Liberty

By Ward Boston Jr.
June 8, 2007

Forty years ago this week, I was asked to investigate the heaviest attack on an American ship since World War II. As senior legal counsel to the Navy Court of Inquiry, it was my job to help uncover the truth regarding Israel's June 8, 1967, bombing of the Navy intelligence ship Liberty.

On that sunny, clear day 40 years ago, Israel's combined air and naval forces attacked the Liberty for two hours, inflicting 70 percent casualties. Thirty-four American sailors died, and 172 were injured. The Liberty remained afloat only by the crew's heroic efforts.

Israel claimed it was an accident. Yet I know from personal conversations with the late Adm. Isaac C. Kidd – president of the Court of Inquiry – that President Lyndon Johnson and Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara ordered him to conclude that the attack was a case of “mistaken identity.”

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the timing of movie releases--what might content analysis reveal about the general state of consciousness during 2001?

1 Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone Warner Bros. $317,575,550
2 The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring New Line $313,364,114
3 Shrek DreamWorks $267,665,011
4 Monsters, Inc. Buena Vista $255,873,250
5 Rush Hour 2 New Line $226,164,286
6 The Mummy Returns Universal $202,019,785
7 Pearl Harbor Buena Vista $198,542,554
8 Ocean's Eleven Warner Bros. $183,417,150
9 Jurassic Park III Universal $181,171,875
10 Planet of the Apes Fox $180,011,740
11 A Beautiful Mind Universal $170,742,341
12 Hannibal MGM $165,092,268
13 American Pie 2 Universal $145,103,595
14 The Fast and the Furious Universal $144,533,925
15 Lara Croft: Tomb Raider Paramount $131,168,070
16 Dr. Dolittle 2 Fox $112,952,899
17 Spy Kids Miramax $112,719,001
18 Black Hawk Down Sony $108,638,745
19 The Princess Diaries Buena Vista $108,248,956
20 Vanilla Sky Paramount $100,618,344
21 The Others Miramax $96,522,687
22 Legally Blonde MGM $96,520,674

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Comic Relief

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Testing, testing – the trial of Reporter Christopher Bollyn - Comment by Lazlo Toth on 911Blogger

Oral testimonies gathered together in “They Thought They Were Free: The Germans, 1933-45” by Milton Mayer (University of Chicago Press) -- a book of first-hand accounts by people who lived through the Hitler era – point out that the same EXACT PATTERN of events and processes (physical as well as psychological) that occurred in Germany during that dark era are now visibly occurring in the United States and Canada. It is a process described by Germans who lived through that time as “the gradual habituation of the people.” They turn the heat up on the pot in small gradual increments, testing you and getting you accustomed to things that several years ago would have made you recoil in shock or disgust – FEMA prison camps, torture, pre-emptive war, false-flag terror, rigged elections, the dismantling of the Constitution, etc. Having mentioned this, I must point out that the current trial of independent journalist Christopher Bollyn is being used as a test case.

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Sunday Morning Reflection

Just thought I would bring everyone up to speed on the goings on. wtcdemolition now has a wiki and (as well you know, cheeky monkeys!) a blog.

these additions have nothing to do with the recent dust up over at 911blogger, which this time I had nothing to do with... :) Trying to live under one big tent is hard and we should be encouraging, not discouraging, spreading out the movement over as broad a range of media and venues as possible. This is one small step for a blogger, but a giant leap for the truth movement.

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This is from last year when it was much less clear how much of an impact, if any, we were making.

Friends, we know the damage caused to our nation and to countless innocent people by McCarthyism. We know that when we let ourselves be divided we become vulnerable to to those with ill intentions. Many people wonder if we are right about 9-11, why then has no one "of importance" come out to take our side.

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Howdy folks!

Anyone wanna talk about 9/11?

gretavo's picture

Welcome to WTC demolition's 9/11 Truth Now Discussion Board!

Please comment on what you'd like a 9/11 discussion board to be/do for you!

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