gretavo's blog

Well, it was bound to happen. The first to get banned was a very obnoxious 9/11 denier who was regularly defaming me and my family. Now it seems that the hammer has come down on several others including myself who had been posting in the Politics forums there, on the issues of 9/11 and subsequently on the issue of Israel and of course, the You-Know-What-O-Caust. In fact it seems that the Arab-Defamation League must have gotten to them because the entire holocaust discussion has been deleted and the two main contributors to the revisionist side, myself and "I.Comyns" have had all of all posts on ALL of the forums deleted. In this way they have deleted every single post I made on every 9/11 thread there, every anti-Zionist thread, and of course the holocaust thread. All gone, just like that.

http://houston911truth.org/2007/08/27/daily-kos-american-airlines-911-didnt-happen/

Thanks Houston Truth for pointing out this "borderline CT" blog entry on DailyKos....

WikiScanner discovered that American Airlines changed their Wikipedia entry to state that Flights 11 and 77 never flew on 9/11.

Original entry was:

Two American Airlines aircraft were hijacked and crashed during the September 11, 2001 Terrorist Attack: American Airlines Flight 77 (a Boeing 757) and American Airlines Flight 11 (a Boeing 767).

New entry is:

Two American Airlines aircraft were hijacked and crashed during the September 11, 2001 Terrorist Attack: Flight 77 (a Boeing 757) and Flight 11 (a Boeing 767). Although these flights were daily departures before and a month after September 11, 2001. Neither flight 11 nor 77 were scheduled on September 11, 2001. The records kept by the Bureau of Transportation Statistics (www.bts.gov/gis/) do not list either flight that day.

Gotta hand it to the student scholars--their name may be redundant but their actions are far from it. If people get a chance they might think to drop them a line of encouragement!

The Obama Campaign V.S. Student Scholars for 9/11 Truth -
On August 13th, members of Student Scholars for 9/11 Truth and local 9/11 Truth activists attended a Barack Obama event in Keene, NH.

Thank you for your continued support! To the truth!
Justin A. Martell

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HA! Poor BB, thought he'd get praise for his enthusiasm instead gets called out for stalking... Then when he realizes he's been made to look a fool he turns on the commenter and accuses them of, well, who knows...

from: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/8/14/72440/5302

It is helpful in policing (0 / 0)
the site to be aware of their activities. Many repeat, banned, 911 trolls also post at these tin foil sites. I occasionally even sit in at the local NY911Truth meeting here in the East Village which is held on Sunday's just around the corner from me. Those affairs are really crazy. I once watched a presentation there which advanced the theory that all news footage of the Trade Center collapse had been rigged by the Government to hide the actually cause of their destruction, American cruise missiles. Wow!

"Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest." ~ Diderot

by Bouwerie Boy on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 07:20:14 AM PDT

This is from Wikipedia:

In 1959 science fiction novel Eden by Stanisław Lem, Procrustics is the name of a fictitious information-theory based social engineering discipline of molding groups within a society and ultimately a society as a whole to behave as designed by secretive hidden rulers, to create a hideous form of social control in which the very existence of the governing powers is denied and each individual appears to themselves to be free yet are being manipulated and controlled. One example described in the novel is "concentration camps" without any guards which are designed so that the prisoners stay inside apparently on their "free" will.

Yep, sounds like our Eden! Maybe Oprah could make her book club read it? I mean... maybe people might all of a sudden develop an interest in reading the book all of their own accord, since the idea that there is some secret queen of reading out there manipulating people is so clearly absurd and paranoid!

http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/15/are-you-afraid-of-backlash/

Many more hate sites listed here: http://listislam.cjb.net/

Please join me in reporting these purveyors of anti-semitic conspiracy theories to the Anti-Defamation League.

Here's some more...

Take the Muzzie Quiz!

Or how about this editorial in the Investor's Business Daily?

Who's Afraid Of '24'?

INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY

Posted 1/19/2007

Knowing The Enemy: The anti-war left hates the Bush administration with such a passion it refuses to recognize how dangerous our enemies in the Muslim world are. Now they hate the TV show "24" because it dares to remind us.

Guess what, Greg? Not all of us are as nice and forgiving as Dr. Jones (much to his credit) was in this dialogue with you. So let's say you haven't been knowingly complicit in the coverup--that means that you are, instead, an ass and a moron. The fact that it took the threat of a lawsuit for you to admit that you are an ignorant buffoon shows that you are also a weasel. Playing the anti-semite card as your sole defense aside from pleading ignorance also says a lot, I think. What are we to make of you, Greg? After all, didn't you go to school with some of the neocons you claim to oppose? Could it be that just maybe you have been playing controlled opposition this whole time? Hm? Maybe?

Greg Palast apologizes to Dr. Steven Jones: "An apology and hope for reasoned discourse"

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/6/19/101515/249

How blindingly obvious does it have to get? Does the naked emperor have to rub his crotch in some peoples' faces for them to finally GET it?

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Whaddya mean, Gretavo? Well, you have to realize who General Ivashov is...

On September 11, 2001, the day when the tragic events in New York occurred, which served as a pretext to define the basis of the genocidal policy of the United States almost 6 years ago, General Ivashov was the Chief of Staff of the Russian Armed Forces. He is a truly well-informed man. It is worthwhile that our people know about his views.

-Fidel Castro
http://www.counterpunch.org/castro08062007.html
Hard and Obvious Realities

From patriotsquestion911.com:

General Leonid Ivashov – Former Chief of Staff of the Russian armed forces on 9/11/2001, and Department Chief for General affairs in the Soviet Union's Ministry of Defense.

Essay 1/22/06: Regarding 9/11 "Only secret services and their current chiefs – or those retired but still having influence inside the state organizations – have the ability to plan, organize and conduct an operation of such magnitude. ...

As those who follow the discussions on this site know, there's been a lot of talk about the nature of the big picture (in a historical sense) into which 9/11 fits. We have struggled to discern whatever truth lies behind the claims of a long-term conspiracy the goal of which is world domination by undemocratic means.

We have, reasonably in my mind, identified sucha conspiracy in the form of the gradual undermining of national sovereignty (whether imposed by royals or by democratic institutions) by the relentless and largely misunderstood forces of economic manipulation.

We have also, I think, linked to thisdistinct method of conquest a number of important social movements that have in effect brought down some formidable power structures, often replacing the not so good with the even worse. To recap briefly, it would seem that in recent history these would include Communism, Nazism, and Zionism.

WOW-This is a great video of the compilation of news stories from the day of the OKC bombing--it includes some analysis by Eric Hufschmid at the beginning, from Painful Deceptions I think. The rest is high quality and more complete than what had been available before... COPY THIS VIDEO before it disappears again!

Got this in Kevin Barrett's latest email...

1 August 2007
Interview: Jim Fetzer will be the guest of host Lee Rayburn, guest host, on Air America (nation-wide)7-8 PM/CT on airamerica.com (mp3)

Air America and Uncle Fetzer - Match Made in Shill Heaven!

So here's what it's looking like...

ON THE LEFT!

We have Air America, Jim Fetzer (911scholars.org), Kevin Barrett, and Dennis Kucinich!

ON THE RIGHT!

We have Genesis Communications Network, Steven Jones (stj911.org), Alex Jones, and Ron Paul!

Who needs AIPAC? Direct from Pelosi's back yard:

http://sfgate.com/columnists/fiore/

I like how Fiore fills his cartoon with all kinds of scruffy and mean looking Arabs who are getting $20 million in bombs while just briefly mentioning the $3 billion annually that Israel is getting, while showing no caricatures of corrupt politicians or rabid land stealing settlers beating up teenage girls, old women, and bulldozing activists! Go Fiore!

Er, this works better... great lecture on the history of Zionism by one of Neturei Karta's rabbis.

http://inminds.com/rabbi-goldstein-judasim-and-zionism.html

"...The Muslim people basically got involved in the fight against zionism when it started affecting them on a political basis which is 1917 for the Palestinians or afterwards for some of the other Arab countries, We [religious Jews] were in this fight from 1890 roughly... As soon as it was founded [zionism], it was condemned - Jews came out and said this is atheistic, this is idol worship..."

"Yes, I should willingly blame Jews for all problems.
-=Mike "

No, no, by all means blame "the Arabs" and "the Muslims"--that's the only way you're going to convince anyone to support murdering them by the tens of thousands in order to secure the oil that props up the value of your precious and much over-printed dollar!

When it's time to blame "the Jews" like it was before WW2, you'll know because that's when people like the Warburgs and Rothschilds will arm a guy like Hitler in order to scare Jews into fleeing to Palestine to use as cannon fodder for their imperial designs.

Did it ever occur to you that the elites in this world could care less who is what? That they simply pit the little people against each other in order to better lord it over them? In just the same way that it served the elites' purposes to fund Hitler and his persecution of Jews in Europe it today serves their purposes to perpetrate 9/11 and blame it on Muslims so as to turn the world against them.

But, as with all the other highly controversial policies he implemented during his five-year stewardship of Mossad between 1998 and 2003, Mr Halevy has no regrets about the uncompromising tactics he adopted against his enemies. "This is a wartime situation, and in war you need to take drastic measures to defeat the enemy," says Mr Halevy

He was the head of Mossad from 1998 to 2002 (his replacement took the position September 11, 2002)

Here is part of his Wikipedia entry:

As a follow up to my post earlier describing recent espionage on Americans by the ADL, here is a description from Douglas Reed's book Controversy of Zion, completed in 1953, that shows that domestic spying by the ADL is nothing new... In case you're wondering what the ADL has to do with 9/11, I've pasted after the text from COZ an excerpt from the ADL's screed against 9/11 truth. Of course, as an agency determined to fight defamation, you would think the ADL might be concerned about Arabs being wrongly blamed for the attacks, but of course that is not the case...

>snip<

"And they sit you into this little briefing room and you get this briefing about how, you know, you can't trust any of these fucking Hadjis, because all these fucking Hadjis are going to kill you. And Hadji is always used as a term of disrespect and usually, with the 'f' word in front of it."

http://alternet.org/waroniraq/58101/

Now I don't want anyone to worry--Hadjis are NOT Jewish semites, so it's not the bad kind of anti-semitism--you know, the one that is ingrained into our genetic code as non-Jews.

Nonetheless, it is still proof of how important it is for pro-semitic organizations like the Anti-Defamation League continue to be on guard, for this less vile form of anti-semitism may well someday manifest itself as people suggesting with absolutely no reason that the good semites, that is Jewish people (including those of eastern european, i.e. non-semitic origins) might be organizing themselves into groups with agendas that undermine America's security.

Oh, turns out it was all just a mistake! Oh! Woops! I guess there was no dark cloud in this silver lining for Loose Change Final Coverup's publicity.

As usual with the morphing stories from AJ, we are left wondering--why was the story so convoluted in the first place? Why was the "stop-loss" explanation offered and now seemingly nixed? And what is up with the DWI cited on a truthaction forum post that was the alleged reason they found him back in 2005? And why am I so stupid as to bite like a retarded fish with a death wish each time AJ or the Loose Change boyz are involved in some tabloid style publicity crap that ends up amounting to diddly squat?

Anyway...

From the rubble pile of 911B:

Prison Planet has a new article based on a conversation with Korey Rowe stating: