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For all its problems with the insincere among its ranks, the real truth movement is the one peopled by the vast, honest majority who believe the events of 9/11 must be subjected to the closest scrutiny possible if we are to learn from this dark chapter in world history. This site is for every real "truther" out there.

 

"If telling the truth marginalizes you, then that is the place to be. After all, if enough people are willing to be marginalized, then before you know it, society has developed a different center. This is the politics of truth."

E. Martin Schotz


"I've had enough of someone else's propaganda... I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I'm for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole."

Malcolm X

"I am a passionate seeker after Truth and a not less passionate enemy of the malignant fictions used by the "Party of Order", the official representatives of all turpitudes, religious, metaphysical, political, judicial, economic, and social, present and past, to brutalise and enslave the world; I am a fanatical lover of Liberty; considering it as the only medium in which can develop intelligence, dignity, and the happiness of man..."

Mikhail Bakunin

"Tell all the Truth but tell it slant-/Success in Circuit lies/Too bright for our infirm Delight/The Truth's superb surprise/As Lightning to the Children eased/With explanation kind/The Truth must dazzle gradually/Or every man be blind-"

Emily Dickinson

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Missing from Google RSS feed - the latest story - and it's a good one!

Judge's Damage-Before-Discovery Raises More 9/11 Questions
Saturday, July 14, 2007 - FreeMarketNews.com

News Analysis

In a ruling that jurist.law called "unusual," on Friday, July 13, Judge Alvin K. Hellerstein of the US District Court of Southern New York ruled that "six wrongful death suits filed by survivors of victims who perished in the September 11 terrorist attacks will proceed to trial on the the issue of damages on September 4."

The JuristLaw article added: "In an unusual decision, Hellerstein severed the issues of damages and liability to speed up litigation, opting to proceed on with the issues of damages first because 'limited discovery is needed' and also because the 'alleged negligence of airlines and their security contractors have no relation to the amount of compensatory damages' that plaintiffs could recover."

http://jurist.law.pitt.edu/paperchase/2007/07/911-compensation-trial-to-...

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More Whining About 911blogger

What to make of this new development, that YT has generously volunteered space on the TruthAction forum for discussions of 911b posts?

truthaction.org

At 911blogger, Reprehensor explains:

The team members at 911blogger.com want to focus on 9/11 News, OpEds, and original content, and regret that we can't be all things to everyone in the 911blogger community. Hopefully, a moderated forum will be good for everyone.

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Impeach Now by Paul Craig Roberts

Pretty good sign that this was published in 9/11 denier Cockburn's Counterpunch...

July 16, 2007

Or Face the End of Constitutional Democracy

Unless Congress immediately impeaches Bush and Cheney, a year from now the US could be a dictatorial police state at war with Iran.

Bush has put in place all the necessary measures for dictatorship in the form of "executive orders" that are triggered whenever Bush declares a national emergency. Recent statements by Homeland Security Chief Michael Chertoff, former Republican senator Rick Santorum and others suggest that Americans might expect a series of staged, or false flag, "terrorist" events in the near future.

Many attentive people believe that the reason the Bush administration will not bow to expert advice and public opinion and begin withdrawing US troops from Iraq is that the administration intends to rescue its unpopular position with false flag operations that can be used to expand the war to Iran.

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Bollyn and Family Safe and Well

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What is causing Michael Chertoff's Gut Feeling?

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The Ghost in the Machine

Here is a wonderful article to send to family members and friends still under the delusion that the Bush administration is somehow interested in “freedom” and “democracy”.

Most articles on Strauss are either too short, too long or too cerebral for the average reader. This piece strikes a nice balance and states in plain language exactly what Strauss – and by extension, the neocons – are all about:

http://dissidentnews.wordpress.com/2007/01/27/straussism-the-neocon-phil...

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He's back...

...from dialysis.


"Now mind you, I'm kinda weak in the adrenals. So, I can't be no martyr myself."

Breaking news just in fom The Akron Farm Report:

Bin Laden praises martyrdom in new video
By OMAR SINAN
15 July, 2007
http://www.onelocalnews.com/akronfarmreport/stories/index.php?action=ful...

CAIRO, Egypt - A new al-Qaida videotape posted Sunday on a militant Web site featured a short, undated clip of a weary-looking Osama bin Laden praising martyrdom.

Bin Laden glorified those who die in the name of jihad, or holy war, saying even the Prophet Muhammad "had been wishing to be a martyr."

The authenticity of the video could not be verified, but it appeared on a Web site commonly used by Islamic militants and carried the logo of as-Sahab, al-Qaida‘s media production wing. It was not immediately clear when the video of bin Laden was filmed.

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Reminder of Must See Video About Money

There will be a quiz!

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Wolf Blitzer is a Zionist

I had not seen this before so, I thought I would pass it along.

Wolf Blitzer is a Zionist


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-8aTGnjHnI
Duration = 7:16

Wolf Blitzer is a Zionist

Brother Finkelstein bitch slaps Wolf Blitzer

From:
The Intifada within the American, Israeli, Islamic Triangle University of Pennsylvania

November 8, 1989

Sponsored by The International Student Council

Co-Sponsored by: Senior VP for Research and Dean of the Graduate School, Vice Provost and Dean of Undergraduate Education, School of Communications, Middle East Studies Comittee, University Office of International Prgorams, Department of Political Science, Department of History

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"9/11 Truth is Racist and Ethno-centric"

As many of you may know, Portland's indymedia site is distinguished among the indymedia sites for having a thriving 9/11 truth page -- whereas indymedias like NYC's censor all 9/11 truth articles. However, Truthers have noted that the page tends to favor things that make 9/11 truth look bad and/or crazy, and thoughtful material or critiques of the movement tend not to show up (it's that pesky server!)

Because of the way 9/11 truth tends to be presented there, it is not at all uncommon to see comments like this from indymedia's leftie readers:

911 truth is racist and ethno centric
13.Jul.2007 22:36
sick of 911 truth

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Israeli Owned Company Serviced All 9/11 Airports

All 9/11 Airports Serviced by One Israeli Owned Company - It’s one of those times when an innocuous comment in an unrelated news report triggers a revelation.In the article at http://afrocubaweb.com/news/israelispying.htm there is the following paragraph:

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thanks to grassrootsivists, Mike Gravel

is now invited to August 9 HRC debate!

http://www.gravel2008.us/?q=node/1672

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Truth: Stranger Than Fiction?

AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION OF 9-11 AND THE WAR ON TERRORISM by: Dr. Albert D. Pastore PhD

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Who is Frank Lowy?

let's have a look at one of lucky larry's business partners. for whatever reason, he doesn't seem to get much 'press' around here. please click the link provided to read the entire article. i've only pasted the first six paragraphs.

http://crimesofzion.blogspot.com/2007/05/frank-lowy-zionism-and-911.html

Fifty days before 9/11, Larry Silverstein's Silverstein Properties and Frank Lowy's Westfield America obtained 99-year leases on World Trade Center Buildings One, Two, Four and Five. Silverstein already owned Building Seven. The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey handed over control of the World Trade Center to Silverstein and Lowy on July 24, 2001. Lowy leased the shopping concourse area called the Mall at the World Trade

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Occupation 101

support this film.
http://www.occupation101.com/

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Those Crazy Muslims: MN Rep Keith Ellison Compares 9/11 to Reichstag Fire

Keith Ellison, the first Muslim in the House of Representatives, let it all hang out when he addressed a group of atheists in that notorious atheist hotbed, Edina, MN, on Sunday:

On comparing Sept. 11 to the burning of the Reichstag building in Nazi Germany: "It's almost like the Reichstag fire, kind of reminds me of that. After the Reichstag was burned, they blamed the Communists for it and it put the leader of that country [Hitler] in a position where he could basically have authority to do whatever he wanted. The fact is that I'm not saying [Sept. 11] was a [U.S.] plan, or anything like that because, you know, that's how they put you in the nut-ball box -- dismiss you."

Article in the Star Tribune

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Oh The Irony!

(I found this at 911b & couldn't resist posting here. The irony of Oda's hypocrisy hit me like a two by four.)

Utah state representative Curtis Oda replies to Some Of The Above News

Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 16:00:04 -0600
From: "Curtis Oda"
To: someoftheabovenews@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: ACTION ALERT: to guarantee CLEAN ELECTIONS in 2008

I normally wouldn't be wasting my time responding to idiotic messages.
However. . . . .

You are a bunch of freekin' hate mongers who do nothing but distribute fear amongst the American people. This is called propagandizing through
the emotion of fear. Hitler did the same thing!
This is nothing but a massive push of conspiracy theories.

You, Michael Moore and Cindy Sheehan are filthy, anti-freedom Communists. You certainly are not Americans!

Sincerely [Representative Curtis Oda]

-----Original Message-----
From: SOME OF THE ABOVE NEWS
BCC: Curtis Oda
Creation Date: 7/10 12:43 pm

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Tell the Lovely Al Jazeera Woman to Cover 9/11!!

They want comments! Click the video to go leave a comment!


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