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"If telling the truth marginalizes you, then that is the place to be. After all, if enough people are willing to be marginalized, then before you know it, society has developed a different center. This is the politics of truth."

E. Martin Schotz

"I've had enough of someone else's propaganda... I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I'm for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole."

Malcolm X

"I am a passionate seeker after Truth and a not less passionate enemy of the malignant fictions used by the "Party of Order", the official representatives of all turpitudes, religious, metaphysical, political, judicial, economic, and social, present and past, to brutalise and enslave the world; I am a fanatical lover of Liberty; considering it as the only medium in which can develop intelligence, dignity, and the happiness of man..."

Mikhail Bakunin

"Tell all the Truth but tell it slant-/Success in Circuit lies/Too bright for our infirm Delight/The Truth's superb surprise/As Lightning to the Children eased/With explanation kind/The Truth must dazzle gradually/Or every man be blind-"

Emily Dickinson

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Boston Herald Contributes to New Coverup Story Arc

Here we go... Brought to you in full technicolor rich
text html! I like the 19 Saudi thugs line. I like the Judge
Hellerstein quote about money being the universal lubricant (insert
crude joke here). Man if that's not a "jew-hater"-baited hook I
don't know what is. I wonder if this new story arc was the reason
we saw the wikipedia edit story about American cliaming its planes
never flew that day. This seems a way of turning the 9/11 debate
into something hard for truthers to join in effectively on.
Theatre in the court, llike the Moussaoui trial. Don't question
ANY victims' family members, say the goons... Just so everyone
knows the Herald is regarded as little better than the NY Daily Post

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A Question For Lazlo...

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Asking a question...

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No Discussing Israel On LC Forum.

Or, "Dylan Avery Confirms He's A Shill (Or maybe just a Coward.)".

"Seriously, man. Lighten up. We don't want to talk about Israel here. That's our choice to make." - Dylan Avery


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WTCD 9/11 Wiki

It all starts here. Like this. With a link to something...

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Rank the Gatekeepers!

Top rank should go to the gatekeeper you feel is the shilliest of the shills...

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Oh My God... It's BACK!

Please tell me yall can see this...

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A Reply to Jerry, the Anonymous Anarchist Annoymouse

To his comment here.

I may be wrong, but it seems that you're experiencing what most of us did when we also discovered Benjamin Freedman on some kooky conspiracy site (in my case it was on Eric "Beware the Crypto-Jews" Hufschmid's) The first thing I'll say (having explored this particular series of rabbit holes pretty extensively) is that one needs to be careful, patient, and open-minded when approaching this subject. Because it strikes deep into the nerve center of some very well defended territory you can be sure that you will have to contend with all kinds of booby traps and pitfalls. Hufschmid is one of those traps.

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Clueless or What? Accusations of Anti-Semitism Nix DRG's Appearance in Ireland

As noted in an article on 911b, Morgan Stack, who had arranged this appearance of David Ray Griffin on September 11, had his venue contract revoked yesterday, due to the threat of protests by "Jewish groups". Now, my initial response to this was to file it in the same place I put the account of globalresearch's problem with the ADL -- that is, as intimidation carried out by those able to erroneously conflate 9/11 Truth and hatred of Jews.

But check it out: Morgan Stack appears to be at the least a very sloppy user of the English language, or an actual anti-Semite. And here is what he made himself a target of: an article by a very pissed off indymedia user citing anti-Semitism on his website:

indymedia ireland

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What it Means to Be Chosen - By Psychopathic Elites

I am actually much more interested in seeing the truth about 9/11 come out than the holocaust. That said, I lean towards the belief that however nasty the Nazis were, they did not "epitomize evil". They were racist. They were brutal. They were frighteningly talented in many ways. Demonizing them to the extent that alleging an actual plan to exterminate all of Europe's Jews on their part does, however, is a deliberate distortion that serves a specific interest--that of Zionism.

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STOP! (the 9/11 coverup version) - A fun and educational game for the whole 9/11 Truth family -

Maybe I'm showing my age here, but before Scattergories came along, we used to play essentially the same game under the name of STOP!

The game consisted of first coming up with 5 or so categories, like car models, famous dogs, types of cheese, etc. The game began with someone calling out "A!" and then proceeding through the alphabet in their head (silently) until someone said "STOP!" at which point the alphabet person would say what letter they had been stopped at, at which point everyone set to work filling in the categories with words starting with that letter. Anyone could at any point yell "STOP!" and silently count to ten before calling out STOP to indicate the end of the round.

Scoring was 0 for no answer, 5 for an answer that someone else also had, and 10 for a unique answer. Then another round would commence.

SO, how's about we update the game for our own truthing purposes? Any number of categories could exist, but I propose the following to start:

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Lucky Larry Has Collected $8 BILLION on his $14 million Investment in the WTC

screenshot from new 9/11 Mysteries (I did bling it out a bit...)


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Has the U.S. Adopted the Israeli Models of Torture and Interrogation in its Bogus “War on Terror”?

Has the U.S. Adopted the Israeli Models of Torture and Interrogation in its Bogus “War on Terror”?

Internet Text Source: “The Origin of the Palestine-Israel Conflict”
Published by Jews for Justice in the Middle East (Berkeley, CA)

Has the U.S. adopted the Israeli models of torture and interrogation in its bogus “war on terror”? To answer this question, let us look at the 1994 Human Rights Watch report, “Torture and Ill-Treatment: Israel’s Interrogation of Palestinians from the Occupied Territories.” –

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Jewish Historians Debunk the Justifications for Zionism, the ‘historical right’ to Palestine, and Call for...

Jewish Historians Debunk the Justifications for Zionism, the ‘historical right’ to Palestine, and Call for a Rational Solution

Internet Text Source: http://www.cactus48.com/OriginMSW.pdf

Israeli author, Benjamin Beit-Hallahami discusses some of the arguments used to justify the Zionist ideology and program in his excellent, “Original Sins: Reflections on the History of Zionism and Israel” –

“There is clearly no need to justify the Zionist dream, the desire for relief from Jewish suffering...The trouble with Zionism starts when it lands, so to speak, in Palestine. What has to be justified is the injustice to the Palestinians caused by Zionism, the dispossession and victimization of a whole people. There is clearly a wrong here, a wrong which creates the need for justification...

The Inheritance Claim

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Abe Foxman, Holocaustâ„¢ Denier

Oh dear...

August 27 2007

Abe Foxman's Genocide Denial Roadshow, Part 2
ADL's Foxman's Forges Impossible Alliance of Armenians, Turks and Boston-Area Jews

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Hats off to Compound F - See This Brilliant Evasion of DailyKos 9/11 Ban!!

[comments are must-read, of course, link at the end... I LOVE watching the cognitive dissonance emanating from DailyKos... the History of 9/11 Truth will not be complete without a special chapter dedicated to and laudatory of the brave and incredibly self-controlled saints who toughed it out in that gatekeeping cesspool to keep tormenting the denying turds like Mia Dolan. Heck, they can't even label it a troll diary! The deniers are running scared! I mean--GRRRR, just look at how this truth-denying scumbag Compound F mocks Robert Fisk for being honest! GRR! Damn those truth-denying Kossacks! They're going to BURY us!! ;) -G]

Robert Fisk goes off the deep end!
by Compound F
Sat Aug 25, 2007 at 06:31:20 PM PDT

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Former NIST Fire Chief Questions WTC Collapses

WHOA! This is huge, no?

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Laws prohibiting public discussion of controversial subjects are...

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9/11 Mysteries Updated Version Now on YouTube

This is part1 of 12... the rest can be found on YouTube!

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