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For all its problems with the insincere among its ranks, the real truth movement is the one peopled by the vast, honest majority who believe the events of 9/11 must be subjected to the closest scrutiny possible if we are to learn from this dark chapter in world history. This site is for every real "truther" out there.


"If telling the truth marginalizes you, then that is the place to be. After all, if enough people are willing to be marginalized, then before you know it, society has developed a different center. This is the politics of truth."

E. Martin Schotz

"I've had enough of someone else's propaganda... I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I'm for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole."

Malcolm X

"I am a passionate seeker after Truth and a not less passionate enemy of the malignant fictions used by the "Party of Order", the official representatives of all turpitudes, religious, metaphysical, political, judicial, economic, and social, present and past, to brutalise and enslave the world; I am a fanatical lover of Liberty; considering it as the only medium in which can develop intelligence, dignity, and the happiness of man..."

Mikhail Bakunin

"Tell all the Truth but tell it slant-/Success in Circuit lies/Too bright for our infirm Delight/The Truth's superb surprise/As Lightning to the Children eased/With explanation kind/The Truth must dazzle gradually/Or every man be blind-"

Emily Dickinson

casseia's picture

All the Motivation I Need

I will be emceeing a war protest in Portland tomorrow, which will probably mean speaking in front of a couple of thousand people. I think I can do it fine, but if I feel stage fright, I'm going to think of this video. Warning: it contains some really gutwrenching/heartbreaking images of injured and dead Iraqi children. (And I love this Foo Fighters song.)


casseia's picture

Your Advice Sought in a Most Important Matter

Thanks to my efforts to bring 9/11 Truth to the unwashed masses of the left community in Portland by infiltrating their organizing committees, I will be emceeing an anti-war rally on Saturday.  They know I represent a group called "The September 11 Affinity Group" so they won't be shocked when I get Truthy -- but I want it to be classy Truth!  I just want some good basic tidbits to pepper in while I carry out my basic duties to introduce the speakers and so forth.  Should I wear a 911truth.org teeshirt a la South Park?  Are there any catchy but pithy things I can say?  One thing I thought of was something like "We know the war on Iraq was built on lies -- one of them being the utterly false assertion that Saddam had anything to do with 9/11.  But that's a lie built on a lie, because not only was he not involved, but we to this day do not know any of the truth about what happened."  Somethin' like that.

Tahooey's picture

Reply from Senator Dianne Feinstein re: 9/11

Apparently Senator Feinstein gets so many inquiries alleging government involvement in 9/11 that a pre-drafted form response goes out to us questioners:

larry horse's picture

Jon Gold is back

i know we shouldn't be giving him any more attention, so i have this set to private. it's the same old crap of course, but add a comment over there if you have a few minutes to waste.



Jpass's picture

Tongue Studs & Kama Sutra - Meet the Kucinichs

Meet The Kucinichs - According To Fox News

Here is a humerous article about Mr. & Mrs. Kucincih. It reads like a new agey 'old guy gets young hippy babe on first date' romantic comedy. I found it when looking for information on these sekrit Kucinich hearings about two discreet aspects of the 9/11 attacks.

Love at first site, marriage proposal on the second meeting, tongue studs, and....someone's into Kaba Sutra.....(dennis you old dog (he's 60) ;).

Your probably wondering why I'm not writing a blog about the big update regarding the Kucinich 9/11 Hearings...well let's just say there wasn't much to report so I found this funny Fox article about Dennis and Liz for you.

Here see for yourself....presented as a news update about the Kunicich hearings over at 911blogger.com

kate of the kiosk's picture

help! has anybody heard or seen Ahmadinejad's speech to UN General Assembly?

can't seem to find anywhere and was on the watch all day - certainly not on "the news"  (the actual speech/transcript!).  have i missed looking under the right rug (no pun intended!)? google is not helping, thus far.

somebody please find a transcript and post! 

no matter what he said at Columbia about "we do not have this phenomenon in Iran" regarding homosexuals, i still want to hear his f'n speech!

 the president of columbia u s a douche bag.  my lord, what a travesty.




Jpass's picture

9/11 Family Member Issues Open Letter About Jon Gold And Being United

This was an open letter posted by Jon Gold on 9/11Blogger.com. I was going to ask Jon if he cared if I re-posted it but it turns out the letter is not too Jon Gold but about Jon Gold to 'open letter'. I'm assuming that means "9/11 Truth Movement". I guess that includes me so here we go.

It reminds me of a reference letter for employment or membershipo into a club.

If Jon commissioned this reference letter I find that a little odd. If it were me I'd feel strange when Mrs. Little asked me who to address it to.

On the other hand, if Mrs. Miller saw Jon getting beat up on 9/11 Blogger and within 9/11 Truth in general and felt compelled to write this to everyone, I find that just as interesting.

She mentions Tarpley's name but I only found a real short quote where Tarpley talks shit on Jon Gold. It wasn't even that bad.

WHo knows, this is all kind of goofy.

Tahooey's picture

I predict that the "organisation" to be named in the new Loose Change film will be:

The Bush Administration
40% (10 votes)
24% (6 votes)
0% (0 votes)
Al Quaeda
0% (0 votes)
The Mossad and / or AIPAC
24% (6 votes)
Darth Nancy and the Clintons
0% (0 votes)
Saudi Arabia and / or Bin Laden family
4% (1 vote)
911 truthers
4% (1 vote)
Other (please specify)
4% (1 vote)
Total votes: 25
casseia's picture

Litmus Test

This was a comment made by Erin S. Myers in Jon Gold's current (weekly?) Sibel Edmonds thread at apt911b.  I should note that I did not ask Erin for permission to repost this -- and if he has a problem I will remove it at once.

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This is the simplified version of a 'litmus test' developed over the
last several years which seems to work moderately well. However, just
remember that here, there are no real absolutes and the results should
be incorporated into a much larger intel gathering process and analysis
which continually affords the best benefits of doubt to the subject
BEFORE gravitating toward conclusions, and especially before any plans
of action are chosen or executed.

Tahooey's picture

The idea of "no-planes" is:

intentionally spread by cointelpro disinformation artists to discredit the entire truth movement
33% (8 votes)
the product of someone (nico haupt?)'s overly active imagination
0% (0 votes)
ridiculous and offensive to the family members who received cell phone calls
0% (0 votes)
should be dropped & ignored
4% (1 vote)
all of the above
8% (2 votes)
not all, but more than one, of the above
42% (10 votes)
worthy of further consideration
13% (3 votes)
Total votes: 24
Lazlo Toth's picture

“Iraq Was Invaded ‘to Protect Israel’ – U.S. Official,” Asia Times.

Emad Mekay, “Iraq Was Invaded ‘to Protect Israel’ – U.S. Official,”
Asia Times, March 31, 2004.

The U.S. official whom Emad Mekay refers to in his Asia Times article is none other than Philip Zelikow, who spoke of Iraq as a perceived “threat” to Israel, and thusly called Iraq “the threat that dare not speak its name.” By way of explanation, Zelikow says in this report that “the American government doesn’t want to lean too hard on it [the Iraq as ‘threat to Israel’ idea] rhetorically, because it is not a popular sell.”

kate of the kiosk's picture

Beautiful people in Brussels

i do so wish i could have been with these wonderful marching truthers - how impressive!



kate of the kiosk's picture

wondering just which "organization" will be, might be, has been, named in the Final Cut

".....It is about whether we should accept unconditionally a story which defeats the laws of physics, denies the abundance of witness testimony, and rejects video evidence put forward by an organisation, which, in hindsight, we know had the means, motive and opportunity, and also has a record of being economical with the truth...."

Tim Sparke, Ex. Prod. Loose Change, Final Cut.



gretavo's picture

since this option won the poll

I don't know, but I don't think Chris is coming home...
At first I thought it meant something bad would happen to Chris but then I realized it could be read in a very different way... Kiss
Cass? you didn't mean they were going to hook up did you?!Foot in mouth
kate of the kiosk's picture

"the humanitarian solution" - Ahmadinejad

being that Ahmadinejad was denied permission to lay a wreath at the WTC demoliton-and-mass-murder site, thought we might want to review some of his thoughts in this recent interview.




Edited Title: for some reason i thought i had read somewhere a version where "human" was used, and then "humane" and now on reading this i see it's as above!

Tahooey's picture

Lots of ISEs lately

Internal Server Errors - any idea what's up?

casseia's picture

Why Does Jon Gold Want to Meet Chris in Real Life?

He wants to enjoy Chris' company and have a sincere discussion of 9/11 issues.
5% (1 vote)
He wants to introduce Chris to Sibel.
14% (3 votes)
I don't know, but I don't think Chris is coming home...
27% (6 votes)
He has a wide stance.
23% (5 votes)
Other -- please specify
32% (7 votes)
Total votes: 22
gretavo's picture

Jews Declaring Independence From Israel - Thank G-d!!



For American Jews, Dissent Against Israel Has Become Mainstream

By Tony Karon, Tomdispatch.com. Posted September 15, 2007.

casseia's picture

Welcome to the Florida Reich


This is a difficult video to watch. Important elements to consider, in my view:

Do you think the guy was intoxicated or just nervous? Mentally ill? Could he possibly have been known to campus security as a mentally ill person? (It should go without saying -- but does not -- that this would be absolutely no excuse for tasering him.)

Does this feel at little theatrical? Could it be a staged attempt to discourage people from confronting candidates or other public figures?

kate of the kiosk's picture

Bollyn on Mukasey nomination


i am so disgusted by this nomination.  part of the plan to implant giuliani as president.

welcome in the new american fasciozionist regime.  wake up people!

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