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For all its problems with the insincere among its ranks, the real truth movement is the one peopled by the vast, honest majority who believe the events of 9/11 must be subjected to the closest scrutiny possible if we are to learn from this dark chapter in world history. This site is for every real "truther" out there.


"If telling the truth marginalizes you, then that is the place to be. After all, if enough people are willing to be marginalized, then before you know it, society has developed a different center. This is the politics of truth."

E. Martin Schotz

"I've had enough of someone else's propaganda... I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I'm for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole."

Malcolm X

"I am a passionate seeker after Truth and a not less passionate enemy of the malignant fictions used by the "Party of Order", the official representatives of all turpitudes, religious, metaphysical, political, judicial, economic, and social, present and past, to brutalise and enslave the world; I am a fanatical lover of Liberty; considering it as the only medium in which can develop intelligence, dignity, and the happiness of man..."

Mikhail Bakunin

"Tell all the Truth but tell it slant-/Success in Circuit lies/Too bright for our infirm Delight/The Truth's superb surprise/As Lightning to the Children eased/With explanation kind/The Truth must dazzle gradually/Or every man be blind-"

Emily Dickinson

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Confusion on Alternet - Shill Confused Over Which WTC7 Cover Story to Use!

Join the fun here

Laughably antiquated propaganda! Posted by: gretavo on Oct 9, 2007 11:07 AM

 they hate our freedoms! and our support of Israel! and WTC building 7 destroyed itself the way buildings often do, in the exact manner of a professional controleld demolition with explosives!

» RE: Laughably antiquated propaganda! Posted by: andy_f_90

» Andy_f_90, what an excellent summary of the issue. Posted by: Prophit

You seem to enjoy putting words in my mouth, gretavo. All I said was Osama did 9/11 and no one else. Posted by: yellow on Oct 9, 2007 10:52 PM

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How Did We Miss This Israeli Attack on Syria?



Did I sleep through this?  Israel "pre-emptively" destroyed a facility in Syria that they claim was being used to develop nukes (haven't we heard that one before?)

Man, clearly the Zionists have jumped the shark... note that in this article, Philip Zelikow is cited and quoted as a moderate who thinks this could harm American diplomatic efforts!

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You gotta love this guy, Nathan Moulton!

although I rarely step foot inside one of these stores, I would have been jumping up and down had i heard this on a WalMart intercom!!!!

 from 911 blogger:



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Ron Paul...can you believe it? unforgivable.

Republican Debate:

Everything seemed to be going swimmingly positive for anti-war Paul-wise; then, he made that gaffe which opened him up to Giuliani..something about not ever having been attacked (?) regarding Iran's supposed threat.

 and, of course, Mr. perseverative 9/11 G was all over that. 

then...Ron Pauls really blew it: "but that was just 19 islamic terrorist hooligans"

 did he really say that???

did anyone hear/see this?


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Do you worry about another anthrax attack?

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Just got a huge stack of Architects and Engineers' cards!

They are VERY nice quality, big, thick, and glossy.  They will have the local flyer police apoplectic in no time!

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Truth Revolution

Hey guys,

Thought you might want to check out my new video. Here's the thread on blogger:


RT makes a cameo about half-way through...;)

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Tom Daschle vs. Bush/Cheney. Anthrax and warrantless wiretapping...

January 24, 2002: Bush and Cheney Urge Senator to Avoid 9/11 Inquiry: 

"Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle (D) later claims that on this day, Vice President Cheney calls him and urges that no 9/11 inquiry be made. President Bush repeats the request on January 28, and Daschle is repeatedly pressured thereafter. Newsweek summarizes one of these conversations: “Bush administration officials might say they’re too busy running the war on terrorism to show up. Press the issue… and you risk being accused of interfering with the mission.” [Newsweek, 2/4/2002] Cheney later disagrees: “Tom’s wrong. He has, in this case, let’s say a misinterpretation.”

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The Jewish Declaration of War on Nazi Germany

The Jewish Declaration of War on Nazi Germany


The Economic Boycott of 1933
Article from The Barnes Review, Jan./Feb. 2001, pp. 41-45.
The Barnes Review, 645 Pennsylvania Ave SE, Suite 100, Washington D.C. 20003, USA.


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Wired for Terror: On the Trail of the “Men” Who Brought Down the Towers – PART TWO A: Judaism vs. Zionism



Dr. Lazlo Toth

October 6, 2007


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Comment Voting Compromised Chez Blogger? And What's Up with Selective Comment Moderation?

I don't really think it's likely, but I do find the relentless down-voting of Chris and Erin S. Myers in the "Amerika Uber Alles" thread somewhat surprising.  Anyway, one reason for starting this blog is that the thread called "What Should Blogger Do About Its Comments" here has gotten too long.  I hate it when things go on to a second page, and making pages longer (mine are set at 90 comments per page) will eventually really stress the database server (or so I've heard).

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Unmasking AIPAC

thanks again, Counterpunch!  you're still sacks of shit! 

"It Doesn't Get Any Worse Than That, Ray"

Unmasking AIPAC


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Horowitz's "Islamofascism Awareness Week"

thanks, Counterpunch, you sacks of shit!

Hate Week Comes to Campus


If you wanted to know what Sen. Joe McCarthy would sound like if he came back from the dead, read David Horowitz's explanation for "Islamofascism Awareness Week," an event he is sponsoring on college campuses across the country from October 22-26:

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Disturbing New Tactic on the Part of the Perps



Has to be read to be believed...

Privated for obvious reasons.

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The Rogue Nation Tour Package - No thanks, Travelocity!

Be sure to click on the links for their travel packages, and read my email response at the end... 


Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007

From: Travelocity Member Services

To: Gretavo aka Real Truther

Subject: Discover Israel: Save $210 per Couple on 8-Day Escorted Tours

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Erin S. Myers Threatens to Pop Me One

Over at the blogger, the thread in which Carol Brouillet has reposted Eric S. May's article "Amerika Uber Alles" is turning into something very strange. Posts that indicate the writer doesn't feel May's cartoon Jew-hating is relevant are being mercilessly downvoted, which is perhaps leading to some frustration. Erin S. Myers, whom I have always considered a congenial fellow bloggerite, posts this in a comment titled "Got Red Book?" which is a direct response to me:

"This behavior a foot is possibly the most loathsome singlemindset
imaginable to me. It would surly test most all my sand not to smack you
in the face if you were standing here."


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India and Israel, Partners in Crime?

Couldn't help but think back to my time in the Harvard peace group--the main activists included two Indian nationals.  When I forced the group into having a discussion about 9/11 after a being ignored for months, they were the main ones arguing against controlled demolition of the WTC.  One was in biochem and the other in physics--not exactly dim bulbs.

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This Deserved Promotion...

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Harvard Crimson Suspends Reader Comments - Gosh I Wonder Why!

How pathetic is this? 

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For those not subscribed to MUJCA alerts...

Kevin Barrett's latest email... good stuff with Amy Goodman...


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