IMPORTANT ALERT! Steven Jones Jumps the Shark - Neither He Nor Glenn Beck Speak for the 9/11 Truth Movement
Abadee abadee abadee... that's ALL folks! Thanks for playing, Prof. Jones--you're OUTTA here!
http://911blogger.com/news/2010-12-13/geraldo-rivera-judge-napolitano-an...
Geraldo Rivera, Judge Napolitano... and now Glenn Beck?
Submitted by ProfJones on Mon, 12/13/2010 - 9:47am
Let me know what you think -- I find evidence that Glenn Beck in the last few weeks is raising questions about the government "creating a situation" -- a false flag event.
Exhibit 1: "if you ever got an oppressive state, if you ever had people who didn't respect the Constitution at the top, the fastest thing they could do to take over is create a situation and then have the Army march into these states.”
http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/48957/
Those are strong words: “an oppressive state”, “people who didn't respect the Constitution at the top”, and especially, these people acting to “create a situation” to achieve certain goals.
Alex Jones has noticed the uptick in rhetoric by GB and says that his trust level in GB has gone from a low value to “70-80%” – and I agree.
http://www.youtube.com/v/OtfbiLfcUgU?fs=1
hmmm...so Glenn Beck, the NAZI, is cool now?
Alex Jones' trust in Glenn Beck is up to 70-80% now, just because he said something potentially righteous about "oppressive states"? Does Prof Steven Jones really think that GB can be a credible spokesman for 9/11 truth?
Both of the Joneses are from the right end of the political spectrum, so perhaps they can be more forgiving of GB's NAZI tendencies. I dunno. I think they are making a huge mistake to give a NAZI any sort of trust or credibility, and it makes me question their belief systems and judgement abilities.
they really seem to want to make 9/11 truth look right wing
there's no doubt in my mind that's what's going on here. and yeah, does Steven Jones think what Alex Jones thinks is worth anything? Apparently so. As far as I'm concerned this is the last straw for "Dr. Jones". The fake truth movement can have him--he is no longer of any value to the real truth movement, he is a liability to be shed.
I couldn't agree more
I'm just sayin...
"The future is not inherited, it is achieved." JFK
just because
i don't know, i really don't. ...but my thinking is that just because someone is a libertarian, just because someone is a republican, an NRA member, a supporter of Alex Jones, a racist even, an omg misogynist...does not mean they cannot be a real truther. just saying.
i started thinking this way as soon as i did the research and am surprised at others for not. let's face it, G, the left has left us.
we really need to drop the right vs. left paradigm if we want to be successful at
achieving truth and justice
how is he a Nazi again?
I thought he was against socialism (national or otherwise)
What's socialism?
I don't even know what those labels mean anymore. Apparently Obama is a socialist, according to Glenn Beck and Alex Jones...
well, what's a Nazi?
a Nazi is someone who subscribes to Hitler-era German National Socialism. Glenn Beck does not, as far as I know, support Nazism. regardless of what he plays on TV, he is in fact an opportunist who would probably take on any role that paid as much as he is paid to play his current role.
socialism itself is a very loosely defined term but generally is understood to mean a large role played by the state in directing economic activity, in theory so as to be as beneficial as possible to society across the board. in reality it does not always work that way, and historically the ideal has been maipulated and used by the powerful in their own interests as much as by common people in the interest of society at large. Obama could well be described as a socialist in the former sense (one who works to socialize risks and costs while privatizing the resulting profits), but Glenn Beck's use of the term to describe Obama is based more on a bogus idea that Obama is in fact a class warrior on the side of the "lazy poor" against the "hard-working middle class".
I would much rather have him speculate
about man-made earthquakes or a visit by Jesus to the Americas than that Beck "10 percent of the world's Muslims are terrorists" Beck is any kind of legit.
Other than Snowcrash, people don't know what to say to him, it appears.
can someone explain this to me
kdub is claiming the Kennebunkport Warning was a hoax again here:
http://911blogger.com/news/2010-12-13/geraldo-rivera-judge-napolitano-an...
How can a warning/prediction be a hoax if it turned out to be basically accurate?
http://911blogger.com/news/2009-12-14/kennebunkport-revisited-open-sourc...
Winter Patriot analysis
A bit lengthy but a worthwhile read.
http://winterpatriot.blogspot.com/2007/09/anyone-who-ever-had-heart-kenn...
broken arrow
Thanks P45, I like the Winter Patriot site and that seems like a reasonable analysis.. except it doesn't mention the nukes. Surely an article discussing the 'hoax' status of the KW should at least *mention* the fact that a few days later 'loose nukes' were flown across the country, a supposed 'impossibility', followed by a complete stand down of air command?
a few days...
...KW said next few weeks or months. if they really had massive evidence they would have made a more urgent call, or done it sooner, no?
few meaning five
That surely comes within 'the coming weeks or months'. The warning was to coincide with the protest.. if they somehow had proof as opposed to masses of merely 'contextual' evidence, or had made a prediction accurate to the day, the nukes presumably wouldn't have flown.
Anyway, I'm not trying to convince anyone, I was just curious what people thought about it. The nukes seem like a big deal to me.
btw I just noticed the WP article does mention the nukes, but only in a quote by Tarpley, in an update at the bottom. It doesn't draw a connection though.
double post
n/t
my guess now...
...is that this was all about Trapley (oops, typo, but im gonna leave it because I think it works...)playing "bad truther" by getting the ladies in question to sign the statement (and it does appear they did so without reading it, later claiming disingenuously that they signed something different) so that the true faction crowd (Col. Jenny Sparks, YT/Cosmos, Jon Gold etc.) could play "good truther". when Jon Gold glommed onto Cindy Sheehan for the "peace of the action" demo, he probably identified himself with those nice anti-Tarpley people, and Cindy Sheehan who just doesn't seem to be the brightest bulb in the attic fell for it hook line and sinker.
the whole thing was a way of selling this all to left/progressives/antiwar folks as "9/11 truth is trouble (tarpley), but if you insist on going there, here's who you should be working with (true faction)"
accurate?
What part of this was accurate? Apparently some people claim the "loose nukes from Minot" story is the threat that was being referred to, but where's the proof of that? What "massive evidence" did Tarpley have? Has he revealed it? The drama surrounding the warning and who did or did not sign it was a huge distraction and waste of time and was milked by the fake truthers for all it was worth in setting themselves up as heroes for being Tarpley's enemies. Funny Tarpley has never attacked us and given us publicity even though I'm by now tired of calling him an obvious disinfo shill. If you ask me, Tarpley, Jon Gold, YT, and others are in cahoots--creating drama to make themselves all look more important than they are.
THE KENNEBUNKPORT WARNING
To the American people, and to peace loving individuals everywhere:
Massive evidence has come to our attention which shows that the backers, controllers, and allies of Vice President Dick Cheney are determined to orchestrate and manufacture a new 9/11 terror incident, and/or a new Gulf of Tonkin war provocation over the coming weeks and months. Such events would be used by the Bush administration as a pretext for launching an aggressive war against Iran, quite possibly with nuclear weapons, and for imposing a regime of martial law here in the United States. We call on the House of Representatives to proceed immediately to the impeachment of Cheney, as an urgent measure for avoiding a wider and more catastrophic war. Once impeachment has begun, it will be easier for loyal and patriotic military officers to refuse illegal orders coming from the Cheney faction. We solemnly warn the people of the world that any terrorist attack with weapons of mass destruction taking place inside the United States or elsewhere in the immediate future must be considered the prima facie responsibility of the Cheney faction. We urge responsible political leaders everywhere to begin at once to inoculate the public opinion of their countries against such a threatened false flag terror operation.
the enemy of my enemy is my enemy
"The drama surrounding the warning and who did or did not sign it was a huge distraction and waste of time and was milked by the fake truthers for all it was worth in setting themselves up as heroes for being Tarpley's enemies."
I agree. They still invoke it every other day, years later.
"Funny Tarpley has never attacked us and given us publicity even though I'm by now tired of calling him an obvious disinfo shill."
Maybe Tarpley knows who the shills really are? Anyway, he's hardly mentioned Gold/Sparks/Arabesque/Wolsey/YT etc. since then, as far as I know.
looks like Prof Jones is turning into an apocalyptic doomshiller
This is beginning to remind me of a very brief email exchange I had with Prof. Jones a few years back (like 2005) where he said something to the effect that "as the bible says the end times will be times of great deception". Fits right in with Alex Jones (I wonder if Prof. Jones' "preparations" involve buying Alex Jones brand water filters?) and now Glenn Beck's right-wing flavored christian apocalypticism or whatever one calls it...
QUOTE:
I hope we can discuss such things in a friendly manner also,
kdub.
Let me say that I do not put much stock in the left versus right paradigm -- to me, this mind-set misses the point.
I did not support Bush/Cheney -- indeed I called for their impeachment and I have attended anti-war rallies and support the peace movement.
Frankly, I do not trust Obama or Cass Sunstein, either. Do you?
The coming chaos needs to be warned about, in one way or the other, and that is what struck me as significant in GB's talks this past week -- as I quoted. I see a great deal of evidence it is coming and will be a "created event" or series of events, like 9/11.
In my talks, I have consistently and emphatically encouraged people to prepare because I care about people.
Now I will get back to preparing in my family, and to research. Farewell.
Submitted by ProfJones on Tue, 12/14/2010 - 9:05am.
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Login to post comments1 vote Same here. Sometimes when I
Same here. Sometimes when I post and get attacked, it feels personal. When I attack someone else, it feels like a fun debate. I hope this feels like a fun debate for you.
I too think there is something major around the corner; probably biological and probably focused on a poor, large, minority population. Its kind of hard to prepare and predict. We each have to do whatever we can to help ourselves and others.
Submitted by geoffritchey on Tue, 12/14/2010 - 10:24am.
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Login to post comments0 votes Yes, that is the point I was trying to make, geoff --
That is the point I was trying to emphasize -- you said it well:
"I too think there is something major around the corner; probably biological and probably focused on a poor, large, minority population. Its kind of hard to prepare and predict. We each have to do whatever we can to help ourselves and others." -- geoff
Just having a few months of food set aside is a good start... and a place to go should one's house become dangerous (e.g., in an earthquake).
And here's a point made by GB I think worth emphasizing:
GB: "They like this New World Order. I don't... In order to preserve the idea that man must be free, that man can be decent enough to rule himself, you must preserve our traditions and our history... Their excuse will be violence. Do not be a part of it…. "
Submitted by ProfJones on Tue, 12/14/2010 - 12:37pm
oh and...
...one could sincerely believe that something big is right around the corner and still not invoke the name of Glenn Beck as a way of saying so. Nope, that's it. I'm really having doubts now about the nanothermite. Why WAS there so much left unignited in the dust? Why didn't other agencies which reported impossible things like iron and molybdenum spheres in the dust (that put the lie to the official story) not mention red gray chips? Why is it that the only hard evidence we know that still exists of an aluminothermic reaction (the WTC7 swiss cheese steel) is consistent with regular old thermate? It would seem that thermate and conventional explosives would have been sufficient to do the job--why use something relatively untested like nanothermite?
My working theory is that the dust samples were spiked--probably with the knowledge of some of the researchers while others were duped. It's a honeypot, i.e.
Willy L has always been
Willy L has always been doubting Prof Jones. I on the other hand felt that Chandler's analysis of WTC 7 free fall was a more elemental proof of controlled demo and felt that Prof Jones' nanothermite theory was good if true but not necessary because the Chandler analysis proved the same thing (CD) without relying on evidence that has limited distribution (dust samples) and verification (we have to trust chain of evidence-do you?).
The Chandler analysis does not require any dust samples for proof and is completely reproducible by anyone who can get hold of the WTC7 collapse videos, an easy task for all.
I also might as well reveal I have my suspicions
...about the nanothermite paper also. This is, to my knowledge, the first time I've aired these suspicions publicly.
The vast majority of us in the movement do not have scientific expertise. We simply knew that it would be a victory for our side if a paper, supporting CD, were to pass "peer review in a scientific journal."
Now, it could be that the paper's content is 100% accurate. Honestly folks, I haven't even READ the paper from start to finish. Because I know that much if not most of it will be over my head. This, even though I have promoted the link as a way of saying "nah, nah, nah, nah, nah" and rubbing it in to people on various forums, who in 2005-2008 would say, "Why don't you troofers get your act together and get a submit a scientific paper to a journal for peer review?"
However, being the non-scientist that I am, how am I to know that further down the pike, there won't be ANOTHER scientific paper, published in another (or even the same) journal, which (at the very least claims to) blow the Harritt paper right out of the water?
Forget about the fear some people have about the govt releasing a high quality color video of AA77 hitting the light poles and Pentagon as a way of neutralizing the movement; what if the nanothermite paper is the REAL honeypot?
This suspicion is furthered by the fact that three of the authors, Gregg Roberts, Frank Legge and Kevin Ryan, have all within this past year jumped the shark.
This is why I've been so fond of promoting the North of Citgo evidence for the past year+ now. No scientific expertise needed to understand the implications. One need only be a mentally competent adult, such as one would need to have to serve on a jury.
Some of the problems with
Some of the problems with nanothermite include Steven Jones own doubts about what the nanothermite was used for. He pondered if they were just used as triggers. If so, why do they allege so much of it was found as dust.
Another point against is the implied method of application, painting on the columns. That can't be an efficient way to use explosives spread over a great amount of area.
Explosives are usually used at vulnerable points to maximize damage with a minimum amount of the substance, not painted thinly. It does not make sense to me even if I am no expert. If you will attack a collumn, you would put as much of it as needed to destroy one point along the collumn, trying to obliterate the whole length will take so much more explosives.
this should be fixed...
I had a brief attack of paranoia when I saw this over at 9/11NEWScentral... the messed up formatting of the page has this incredibly offensive montage appearing out of context. someone associated with that site might want to fix it, given it is what you see when you click on the link to the #1 TOP STORY of 2010...
http://lv911truth.wordpress.com/2010/11/18/in-motion-the-plot-to-destroy...
the context...
FAILURE OF THE “VOLUNTEER ARMY”…..AS ISRAEL SEES IT
Forcing America to return to a draft and begin a major war, one America can never really win as with Iraq and Afghanistan and, let us not forget Vietnam, is something absolutely vital to hang around the neck of a Democrat,
RACE HATRED, AMERICAN KRYPTONITE [this is the caption for the racist image -gReT]
especially one of African American ancestry. Anyone who doesn’t think the real heart of American politics has always been racism is a liar. Family values means “white” family values. African Americans know shame at the relief they have felt seeing Muslims targeted for persecution. Every political position in today’s America is derived from institutionalized racism, be it immigration, health care or “constitution.”
When a return to the “constitution” is brought up, by people who wouldn’t know the document from a Croatian take-out menu, the reality is always race, fear, hate and envy, the glue that holds American society prisoner. Decades ago, and even more recently during our last presidential election, African Americans were represented as animals, “goyim” to the Jews. Now we play “Kill the camel jockey.” Is this why the Christianized army we sent to Afghanistan murders innocent civilians for sport?
An America in total economic collapse will require another “decider” and more “Patriot Acts,” even more totalitarian and vicious than the last, that and an end to the even farcical elections that are now inundated with drug money and cash from US based foreign corporations.
This is the plan and a criminal gang in America, some in government and the military but more behind the scenes, “banksters” and media moguls, many with ties to Israel, are working feverishly to bring it about. However clever the planners may think they are, their mechanations can be tracked through the media, the army of “Wolf Blitzers” that “work” the American people with the subtlety of carny shills.
You sound like you're channeling Jon Gold
It doesn't take much general scientific knowledge (i.e., the amount you would get with any decent college education) for two things.
1) To be able to follow the high school level physics that inform a David Chandler-style analysis of observable events -- that is, the "collapses" had energy added.
2) To understand the peer-review process enough to recognize a difference between the possibility of a paper being contradicted by further research and a nefarious honey pot ploy.
The problem has been, and continues to be, focusing on a mechanism for the collapse rather than the observable nature of the collapses themselves. (Collapse, destruction, you know what I'm talking about.) A theory that is floated about the mechanism for the explosive demolitions may be floated and later invalidated -- this does NOTHING to the crucial underlying fact that the destruction was observably not caused by gravity and plane damage alone.
exactly right
It seems that a good rule of thumb in 9/11 truth is that if their name isn't David, don't trust them! :)
whole lotta silence over at 911blogger...
They sure aren't pressing the issue with Prof. Jones. How often do Jon Gold and I agree on something, anyway? Can anyone see what's being said about Prof. Jones at true faction and report back?
Oh, and Andrew Napolitano...
How often do Jon Gold and I agree on something, anyway?
Indeed, and how often do Victoria Ashley and I agree on something?
There is an agenda, but . . .
I think the word has come down, for whatever
reason, that it's now okay to wade into exposing parts of the 9/11
attack cover-up.
Check out what Napolitano said when following up to Geraldo's Fox expose.
This YouTube clip reveals how the mainstream media is going to spin
controlled demolition at the WTC on 9/11 and why they feel they can
safely reveal it now -- at least more safely than continuing to stay
silent in the face of growing public awareness.
the most obnoxious protestors in recent history be right? If the
explosives were there and the government didn't cause it, didn't know
about it, but isn't telling us about it?"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?
In essence, it seems that growing awareness of the demolition of the WTC has gotten so ubiquitous that the media is realizing it will, over time, completely lose whatever credibility it might have left, by continuing to stay silent or by ridiculing the movements core claim as a crackpot conspiracy theory. And indeed, the NYCCAN ads on state TV in New York do represent a tipping point --- enough money was raised to get this crucial message on the air, it is reaching millions, and now even the MSM can't pretend it doesn't exist.
It seems that acknowledging CD but engaging in damage control with regard to how monstrous "our goverment" is, is the next step for them.
Once again, though, the Pentagon damage can not be spun under the cloud of "the government didn't know about it, didn't cause it, but isn't telling us about it." All eyes have to turn to Rumsfeld/Cheney when it comes to explosives in the Pentagon and staged poles etc.
I'm anticipating Jesse Ventura's Pentagon episode in 2 nights from now.
here's a glimpse of what Prof. Jones is trying to lead us into..
We can't ignore this! We need to nip this in the bud by making it clear to anyone and everyone that Prof. Jones no longer speaks for the truth movement as a whole, if he ever did. We need to make as many references as possible to Glenn Beck's ANTI-9/11 truth statements. People in the comments to this Alternet article are already drawing comparisons between Beck and Alex Jones--note that Prof. Jones cited AJ's newfound trust in Beck. We can't let this pass unremarked--we need to send the message loud and clear to all 9/11 truth orgs that they need to disavow Prof. Jones' 'revelation' about Beck. prof. Jones cannot be this stupid--he *is* not this stupid.
http://www.alternet.org/teaparty/149129/how_glenn_beck%27s_twisted_world...
People for the American Way Foundation and Media Matters / By Peter Montgomery
205 COMMENTS
How Glenn Beck's Twisted Worldview Goads Disturbed People into Acts of Violence
Glenn Beck’s inflammatory rhetoric has been tied to a number of violent attacks and threats against Beck's targets and other public figures.
December 9, 2010
Radio and TV personality Glenn Beck plays a unique and extraordinary role in our political discourse. He’s an entertainer who once referred to himself as a “rodeo clown.” He’s a self-appointed “educator” whose books and “university” are miseducating millions of Americans with false claims about American history and a distorted view of our Constitution. And he’s an increasingly messianic figure who claims that he has been divinely anointed to lead the nation back to God.
Central to Beck’s influence is the intensity of his fans’ devotion to him. And central to the danger he poses is his willingness to stoke fear, anger, and hatred among those fans with a toxic, if lucrative, mixture of conspiracy theories and charges that America is on the verge of being destroyed by enemies from within. In Beck’s world, those enemies include not only President Obama and Democratic congressional leaders, but also progressive advocacy organizations, unions, and even churches that promote social justice as a part of their religious mission. What Beck preaches is that these are not merely political opponents with policy disagreements, but agents of evil whose goal is the destruction of America and who will stop at nothing -- including the deaths of millions -- to advance their freedom-destroying plans.
Beck has also raised the stakes by claiming a divine mandate for his view of the Constitution and the U.S. government. He has not only attacked President Obama’s politics, but has called the president’s views on the nature of salvation “evil” and “satanic.” Beck and David Barton, the Religious Right pseudo-historian he promotes, claim that their views of limited government and the Constitution are divinely inspired. So progressives are not only un-American, they are un-Christian and anti-God. “If we do not put God at the center of our own personal lives and the center of our country, we will not survive,” Beck said in August. “The country will be washed with blood and then someone will have to start over, and God only knows how long that takes."
Beck’s propaganda traffics in alarmism, paranoia, racial resentment, and anti-Semitic conspiracy theories. These would make for a combustible mix at any time. But it’s an even more dangerous combination during a time of widespread economic hardship, when so many people are hurting and increasingly desperate. While backing politicians who don’t believe the government has a role in addressing that pain, Beck offers explanations that can deepen the desperation.
“Times of threat bring increased aggression,” 21-year CIA veteran Jerrold Post told Politico last fall. “And the whole country’s under threat now, with the economic difficulties and political polarization. The need to have someone to blame is really strong in human psychology. And once you have someone to blame, especially when there’s a call to action, some see it as a time for heroic action.”
For some troubled Beck fans, that “heroic action” has meant taking up arms against the nation’s “enemies” as Beck has defined them. The poison that Beck administers daily to our political culture has intensified the nation’s divisions and inspired murderous violence. But rather than take any responsibility for the impact of his irresponsible rhetoric, Beck has responded by dismissing his critics, raising the volume of his violent rhetoric, and repeatedly suggesting to his viewers that he is in danger of being killed by progressive leaders.
Beck’s indifference to the damaging consequences of his language and actions has led a number of public interest organizations to join forces in an effort to hold Beck and Fox News accountable, with a campaign asking owners of televisions in public locations to turn off Fox, and a campaign urging advertisers to drop Fox and stop funding Beck’s irresponsible rhetoric.
True Faction not touching this one...
...usually the shills there are so keen to wax sanctimonious when someone does/says something that could hurt the movement. guess they're under a stand-down order?
Right now they're busy defending rapists...
from no-planers -- how noble a struggle...
Remember when the term no-planer referred to crazy people in NYC? Isn't it fantastic the way it has seamlessly morphed into the word of choice to describe people who confess skepticism about the impact of a large plane at the Pentagon? As if that kind of very reasonable skepticism might lead to an obsession with scat a la Nico Haupt?
First you wonder
how a big plane could crash there and disappear into the building, and then...
so they're defending Assange...
...who said that 9/11 conspiracy theorists annoy him? and remaining silent as Steven Jones sings the praises of Glenn Beck? It may be safe to say that the entire fake truth movement is currently midair over one effing huge great white, eh?
I had to explain the whole "jumping the shark" meme
to my eleven year old on this occasion. It's a very large shark this time.
Steven Jones has been pushing it forEVER
and by "it" I mean the willingness of people like me to impute to him both good faith and sanity despite the Mormonism. The ramp for the shark jump has been built from many little things over the years... the "Jesus visited the Americas" research, the increasing pleas to "stock a year's worth of provisions for the end times like all good Mormons do", the man-made earthquakes stuff. It's all a series of blows to his personal credibility, which is separate from his credibility as a scientist -- or which COULD BE kept separate from his credibility as a scientist, if he would just put a lid on it.
it's been so steady, yes...
...that each time we could say, oh well, you know, it's not like he's a pedophile or anything. but really, at this point it's WAY too obvious. my fear is that apparently honest folks like DRG and David Chandler will be hesitant to take a stance in opposition to "luminaries" like Prof. Jones--or worse yet that they will be in denial as to the extent to which the cognitive infiltration was built into the truth movement from the beginning. maybe a few polite, sane, and rational emails are in order?
Alex Jones: "we also have Michael Savage saying the same thing"
this is from the AJ video that Steven Jones loved so much...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtfbiLfcUgU&feature=player_embedded#t=2m0...
that's right, THIS Michael Savage:
is Steven Jones still shilling for Glenn Beck after this?
http://mediamatters.org/blog/201103250009
Glenn Beck's Love-Hate Relationship With 9-11 Truthers
March 25, 2011 10:33 am ET by Simon Maloy
Glenn Beck has been very hard on 9-11 truthers the past couple of days. He's been beating up on one person in particular, who, as it turns out, isn't actually a truther -- Van Jones.
On Wednesday, Beck said this:
BECK: They may not know the last one, you know, because they didn't know Van Jones was a 9/11 truther, you know? I mean, should we expect the White House to distance himself from Lerner since, you know, he's plotting economic terrorism? I don't know. Maybe we should tell him he's a 9/11 truther. Maybe then they'll distance themselves.
Let me ask you this: Who is letting people in the White House? We had the 9/11 truther who I point out a bigger problem was he was a communist. And now, we got a guy who is plotting economic terrorism. Who else is going through the door of the White House?
And yesterday, Beck said this while attacking UN Special Rapporteur on human rights in the Palestinian territories Richard Falk:
BECK: Could produce a holocaust. It could produce a holocaust. It could produce a holocaust. By the way, just like Van Jones, he's also a 9-11 truther.
So Beck doesn't much like the truther crowd. We've pointed out before that this hatred stops just short of his own guest hosts, like bona-fide 9-11 conspiracy theorist Andrew Napolitano, but Beck's anti-truther crusade this week is especially noteworthy, given what he's promised for today's show.
Here's what Beck said on Tuesday:
BECK: You, by the way, have to watch this show on Friday because there is some truth to that. The unbelievable history of the Fed. The -- what is it? The monster is what it's called? The monster? The creature of Jekyll Island. We will give you the truth and none of the crazy conspiracy theories on the Fed Friday at 5:00.
The book he referred to is The Creature From Jekyll Island, an obscure anti-Federal Reserve tome authored by lunatic conspiracy theorist G. Edward Griffin. And among the many conspiracies to which Griffin subscribes is -- you guessed it -- 9-11 trutherism. He's written extensively about the U.S. government's "facilitation" of the attacks. He even appeared on the Alex Jones radio program and claimed that his post-9-11 prediction that "the FBI and the intelligence agencies of the federal government had advance knowledge of this attack but did nothing to stop it" was proven right.
So Beck spends half the week attacking Van Jones as a truther (even though he's not), and closes out the same week with a show devoted to the wild-eyed rantings of an actual 9-11 truther. Quite an impressive bit of hypocrisy, even for Beck.
Steven Jones' pal Glenn Beck at it again...
http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/glenn-beck-compares-victims-of-norwa...
Glenn Beck, the American right-wing talk-show host, compared the victims of a shooting at a Norwegian summer camp to Hitler Youth in his radio program on Monday, according to a Daily Telegraph report.
The campers were victims of a double attack perpetrated by a conservative extremist last Friday, claiming the lives of over 90 people. At least 85 were killed at the camp alone.
Beck described the brutal incident “as a shooting at a political camp, which sounds a little like the Hitler Youth. I mean who sends their kids to a political camp? Disturbing," he added.
The Hitler Youth was a paramilitary organization of the Nazi Party comprised of teens and preteens that existed from 1922 to 1945
Torbjørn Eriksen, a former press secretary to Jens Stoltenberg, Norway's prime minister, called Beck's comments a "a new low" for the broadcaster, who is known for his controversial, often offensive statements.
"Young political activists have gathered at Utoya for over 60 years to learn about and be part of democracy, the very opposite of what the Hitler Youth was about," he told The Daily Telegraph. "Glenn Beck's comments are ignorant, incorrect and extremely hurtful."
The Coalition to Stop Gun Violence, a Washington-based campaign group, called the remarks "absolutely disgusting".
Beck recently returned from a trip to Israel where he was invited by MK Danny Danon (Likud) to speak to the Knesset.