i believe the term i am looking for is
"honeypot"

Do I have rock solid evidence WLeaks is a nefarious bunch of ne'er do wells?

No.

Have they ever published one scintilla that would propel our cause further on down the line to victory?

No.

Can I explain why my spidey sense is all a tingle over these guys? Well, maybe not to everyone's satisfaction but I should make the attempt.

Submitted by camusrebel on Wed, 06/23/2010 - 6:38pm.
» Login to post comments 2 points When I did some research on Assange the main points
I walked away with were he grew up poor and remained so into adulthood. He was an extremely sucessful teen-age hacker. As often happens in these cases, he got in some trouble with Johnny Law.

So, where did the start up money come from? Did he cut a deal to keep his Assange out of prison?

Then I read an article in a recent New Yorker about him. Very flattering. Glowing. Perhaps a tad over the top. It was written by some character named Raffi Katchadourian. This guy is a product of the Nitse SAIS, where folks like Brezinski and Wolfowitz have been known to hang out. Not really a hot bed of muckraking journalism. Reading bios of the faculty you run into many CFR refs.

Katchadourian also wrote a New Yorker piece on the bloodbath in Iraq. It reads like a love sonnet to some cold blooded killers.

Is Raffi Katchadourian a Mockingbird plant. I'm as free to speculate as the next person and to me it smells bad.

Cleary none of this would stand up in court. My BS detector has been going haywire on this WLeaks org from day one (and I'll admit I do not have an excellent reason why) but in the past it has behooved me to pay it heed.

Submitted by camusrebel on Wed, 06/23/2010 - 6:57pm.
» Login to post comments 2 points Yes, as a matter of fact, I do rather enjoy
talking to myself. I'm just saying, ok, you cant publish all 260,000 cables, I get it.

How bout like...i dont know....3? That would still leave Soros or whoever is really behind it 250,997 US embassy messages to blackmail your enemies with.

If Sibel Edmonds is leery about this outfit perhaps we should hold off on the ticker tape parades.

Many sites are busy singing the praises of everything Assange. Maybe here we could at least wait till they add something in our quest for TRUTH, or a new investigation.

Submitted by camusrebel on Wed, 06/23/2010 - 7:03pm.
» Login to post comments 3 points Camus, I'm not saying that
Camus, I'm not saying that I'm completely in line with your "radar" in this case, but I do think it's unfair how quick everyone here is to judge you. One would think such an avante guarde community such as this would know better (deep down they do). But we live in a world in which people don't like to be disagreed with. Myself included. It just feels yucky when we feel we are right. In this case, I think you have every right to express your feelings of dissent. I don't have to agree with them to feel that way. I've learned a valuable lesson throughout my life, and that is...unless and until one is verifyably proven, TRUST NO ONE. And this wikileaks thing (in terms of public awareness) is relatively...no, VERY new. I don't know this Assange guy from a hole in the wall. I DO know there are double-agents in the world and I haven't the foggiest idea of what this man's real intentions are. One thing you said though is very true. And that is that thus far, nothing has come from this organization which advocates for the truth regarding 9/11, which is MY personal issue of choice. Does that make me self-centered. I guess in a way, but mostly I feel that 9/11 truth is THE MOST important political subjectmatter ON THE PLANET. Sure releasing the Collateral Murder video was great, but absolutley, what has transpired so far with regard to that video? Nothing. Business continues on as ususal. That was "like, so April". I do hope that this new Afghani video is released and that it has more traction than what the previous one did. Unlike yourself, I'm not yet judging Assange. He may be a great man who just hasn't discovered 9/11 truth yet. Or had any leaks to his organization concerning this topic. I just don't know. It's not just for ANYONE to judge anyone until they are proven. Assange, for all intents, is still very much...a rookie. Compromise people? Yes? Group-think...no? Oh, and....the real victim in this case is Manning. And I can't even prove that THAT was or wasn't staged. Have you people seen The Imaginarium of Dr. Parnassus? How about an oldie Twilight Zone episode? Scooby Doo maybe? Truth is stranger than fiction and I don't rule ANYTHING out until I see and hear with my own fuckin senses. All I do know is that the 9/11 truth movement is now several years old and I'm growing very impatient waiting for/working toward critical mass. Very impatient.