"Give the pretzel another chance!" LOL That would be a great bumpersticker. Hey Cass, I haven’t had a chance to say it, but I’ve enjoyed reading some of your recent posts here and elsewhere. Man, you were givin’ it to Jon Gold. Holy shit. It was like the old days. Anyways, thanks for remembering some of these “just say no to an illegal slaughter” guys like Ehren Watada and Augustin Aguayo. We need more people to just say no. We also need a National Strike. If there is no fodder for the cannons, then the cannons do not go off.

As this is a thread related to the old, and never-tiring subject of disinfo and disinfo agents, I also wanted to put my two cents in here on people like Alex Jones, the Loose Change makers, or Luke Rudkowski, and others whose sincerity and intent have been subject to doubts from various disparate quarters of the “9/11 Truth Movement.” Also, on a side note, if I am in some kind of “movement,” I just wanted to say that, after four years, I haven’t gotten my membership card yet. Are there membership cards?

Although, at this point, saying Korey Rowe is a “political prisoner” can perhaps be interpreted as part of Alex Jones’ “radio show host” love for the dramatic, still it is interesting that it actually was the U.S. military contacting the local police to carry out the warrant for “desertion.” Although “Loose Change” might be labeled “disinfo” by the “hard-core 9/11 investigator” because it will not (and cannot) tell the absolute whole story, still, the story it does tell is horrible, shocking, and controversial enough, as it is, and I am sure that there are upper level people in the military who would love to put the screws on a guy who “refuses to serve,” and instead, spends his time making and promoting a film whose basic premise they see as the most vile of “treasonous enemy propaganda.” Although certain research flaws and the unintended creation of “strawmen” were present in “Loose Change,” I don’t think that Dylan and the boys actually started out with the concept of let’s make a 9/11 disinfo film, get rich, and party in Hollywood. Along the way though, I’m sure, they have been told that their presentation must finger the White House and leave hanging in the air the final questions regarding who might have been able to authorize and set up the controlled demolitions.

I do completely agree with you, Casseia, on what you wrote here:

“Rowe has an enormous opportunity here to do what you suggest he should already have done, and that is to make his status as a deserter public and an act of resistance against the war.”

I know that for Gretavo and others, internet-movie wunderkinds gone “Hollywood” and the mixing of bull-horning, Texas, conservative Christian “showmanship” and merchandising with 9/11 truth as represented by Alex Jones really bugs him, but as our good friend, Lemonhoko wrote, “Loosechange probably woke up more people to 9/11 truth than any other single video. Alex Jones has probably woke up more people to the corruptness of what’s going on than any single radio personality on air.” He does have a valid point there, and even hardcore people, such as myself and some of my friends, feel that, on such a controversial subject as 9/11 with its host of other related controversial subjects, we are happy that any truth at all is available on any kind of media. And besides, you can’t suddenly take people from the thought level of “The President would never do that” all the way up to the insane visions of Benjamin Netanyahu. Besides, as publicly available corporate org charts show, all channels of major media communication, including internet, are owned and controlled by families sympathetic to the Zionist ideology of a “Jewish State,” thus on any media there will be a mechanism installed for complete shutdown of information flow when the subject of 9/11 is broached. This is doubly so when the subject of 9/11 and its connections to Israel is broached. I believe that Alex Jones and the projects connected to him (Loose Change and We are Change) are indeed sincere in their work of information dissemination and activism. Although Luke Rudkowski is definitely not any sort of polished spokesman for “the movement,” it still takes a lot of guts to approach someone like Zbig or David Rockefeller and his armed bodyguards to call him out on his NWO shit. Rockefeller is NWO, CFR, Trilateral Commission, Bilderberg scum, just read his memoirs. I think AJ and these other 9/11 activists do care about their country. I simply think that they are working within a range of truth which is limited by a desire to continue to get “truth” out, yet still maintain a radio presence to do so on, and not give the media red bait like “anti-Semitic hate speech” to distract the public away from the message. If the 9/11 truth movement comes to be universally branded as JOO HATERS, then no truth of any sort will get out, and that is a fact. With regards to 9/11, I look at Alex Jones or “Loose Change,” as an entranceway or gateway to the fuller show, a show which is a lot more complicated than “let Osama and his jihadi boys attack us, so we can turn around and take the Arabs’ oil.” Even the LIHOPPY “Press for Truth” film, though not exactly putting Lewis Eisenberg’s home address and photo on the screen, actually did gently start a lot of people out on their 9/11 truth roads.

Personally, I do not hold the fanatical, paranoid attitude adopted by people such as Eric Hufschmid that anyone who doesn’t publicly present the 9/11 story as a 100% Israeli Zionist operation must themselves be “Zionist shills” on the payroll of Mossad or the ADL. I’ve even heard Barrie Zwicker called a “Zionist shill” because he doesn’t constantly trumpet the connections between the media’s cover-up of 9/11 and the possibility of Israeli involvement in 9/11. Having said these things, I also think that it is not unreasonable to assume that people or websites in the 9/11 media spotlight, such as 911B, Alex Jones and the “Loose Change” crew, have been approached or advised to stay within the “Cheney-Bush did it” arena by people whose initially friendly warnings are to be taken seriously.