gretavo's picture

A Call to Real Patriots and Thoughts on the Big Picture

As those who follow the discussions on this site know, there's been a lot of talk about the nature of the big picture (in a historical sense) into which 9/11 fits. We have struggled to discern whatever truth lies behind the claims of a long-term conspiracy the goal of which is world domination by undemocratic means.

We have, reasonably in my mind, identified sucha conspiracy in the form of the gradual undermining of national sovereignty (whether imposed by royals or by democratic institutions) by the relentless and largely misunderstood forces of economic manipulation.

We have also, I think, linked to thisdistinct method of conquest a number of important social movements that have in effect brought down some formidable power structures, often replacing the not so good with the even worse. To recap briefly, it would seem that in recent history these would include Communism, Nazism, and Zionism.

Danse's picture

Journalists and Genocide

Posted this over at truthaction.

In light of the forthcoming History Channel hit piece.
I was shocked -- shocked I tell you -- to hear that the producers didn't bother interviewing the likes of David Ray Griffin or Bob Bowman.

The piece at truthaction is fairly long so I won't bother posting it here, but please give it a read if you have a few minutes.

I explore the idea of whether any of the mediawhores who carry out these disinformation campaigns can and ever will be held accountable in a court of law.

My sad conclusion is that they most likely will not. However, I'm anxious to hear if anyone can come up with a plausible scenario whereby the Bill O'Reilly's and Rupert Murdochs of the world are brought to justice.

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Traveling 9/11 memorial stops at California Mid-State Fair

Huh? Someone's dragging an 29,000 pound steel I BEAM around California?!?!

"A traveling 9/11 memorial makes a stop at the Mid-State Fair.

The 29,000 pound steel I BEAM sits on a tractor trailer bed as a stark reminder of the force behind the explosions that tumbled the Twin Towers on 9/11.

The beam was retrieved from Ground Zero and brought out to California by train.

The portable display has visited a handful of California fairs.

"On opening day, we're building this big memorial and my dad calls me and he says this is unbelievable. People are so touched and moved. We had to buy cases of Kleenex and writing their names and putting flowers, and on, and on."

Photos of Ground Zero on display also help retell history.

Donations are being collected to go towards finishing a permanent memorial located in Sacramento."

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Critics take aim at Bin Laden musical

Critics take aim at Bin Laden musical

Thu Aug 2, 2:24 PM ET

LONDON (AFP) - A satirical musical about Islamist terrorism and Al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden has sparked protests in Britain, with critics blasting it as tasteless.

"Jihad: The Musical," which features songs including "I wanna be like Osama" and is described as "a madcap gallop through the wacky world of international terrorism," is on at the Edinburgh Fringe festival this month.

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The USS Liberty - A Song

I wrote this song about 2 years ago and I thought you guys might like it. Try to hear this in your mind as a new old time string band sounding song. Old Crow Medicine Showish...

USS Liberty
by. j.passwaters
copyright 2005

No one cried when our sailors died
Proud men serving on the liberty
A US Flag was flyin high
They were floatin without motion
In the Straight of Sinai

Oh yea...oh yea...

Our friends circled us early that mornin'
Old Jim Ennis saw the white of their teeth
No one knew what was about to go down
They started droppin bombs on our brave men....


Cover it up with your biggest blanket
You couldn't sink her so now we can see
Cover it up with your biggest blanket
You couldn't sink our Liberty

They started with rockets and machine gun fire
oh the 2nd round they let the napalm down
That wasn't enough to sink our Liberty
So They brought torpedo boats to give it a go

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Mike Gravel Interview - Philly Jewish Voice

"I will not be deterred by any lobying group..."

gretavo's picture

Oklahoma City Revisited

WOW-This is a great video of the compilation of news stories from the day of the OKC bombing--it includes some analysis by Eric Hufschmid at the beginning, from Painful Deceptions I think. The rest is high quality and more complete than what had been available before... COPY THIS VIDEO before it disappears again!

gretavo's picture

Tired of the unifying force of 9/11 Truth?

Got this in Kevin Barrett's latest email...

1 August 2007
Interview: Jim Fetzer will be the guest of host Lee Rayburn, guest host, on Air America (nation-wide)7-8 PM/CT on (mp3)

Air America and Uncle Fetzer - Match Made in Shill Heaven!

So here's what it's looking like...


We have Air America, Jim Fetzer (, Kevin Barrett, and Dennis Kucinich!


We have Genesis Communications Network, Steven Jones (, Alex Jones, and Ron Paul!

gretavo's picture

With Liberal Peaceniks Like These...

Who needs AIPAC? Direct from Pelosi's back yard:

I like how Fiore fills his cartoon with all kinds of scruffy and mean looking Arabs who are getting $20 million in bombs while just briefly mentioning the $3 billion annually that Israel is getting, while showing no caricatures of corrupt politicians or rabid land stealing settlers beating up teenage girls, old women, and bulldozing activists! Go Fiore!

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New Al Qaeda Web Ad Threatens 'Big Surprise'

New Al Qaeda Web Ad Threatens 'Big Surprise'

See the Al Qaeda Web Ad Captured by ABC News

August 01, 2007 7:34 PM

Rhonda Schwartz Reports:

A new al Qaeda propaganda ad, headlined "Wait for the Big Surprise" and featuring a digitally altered photograph of President George Bush and Pakistan's President Pervez Musharraf standing in front of a burning White House, was posted on the Internet today.

The brief clip from al Qaeda's "as Sahab" propaganda arm juxtaposes the doctored photo of Bush and Musharraf along with previously seen images of al Qaeda's top leadership -- Osama bin Laden, Ayman al Zawahri and Adam Gadahn -- as well as a photo of an SUV in a motorcade. (Oooooohhhhh. An SUV. In a Motorcade. Ooooohhhhh.)

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Sept 11, 2001 World Trade Center From the Point of View of a Filipino

9-11 was an inside job! (If you have any doubts, please read this and watch any videos here )

To fellow Filipinos who have come across the 9-11 controversy, I would like to relate how I learned of the 9-11 truth movement. I am a Philippine citizen and resident. I have a master’s degree in Development Economics from the University of the Philippines and currently work in the IT industry.

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Twin Cities Bridge Collapse

I'm dying for more information on this (could be the broadband withdrawal talking). A guy on NPR described explosions and smoke, bridges there are well-maintained and inspected, etc etc.

And here's the CT capper: today is 08/01/07 -- remove zeros and reverse and what do you get?

dicktater's picture

Will the American voter consider Israel when electing the president?

Check the scores. Who's on their list of candidates? Who's not? Who on the list has announced their candidacy? Who hasn't?

The panel doesn't seem to think that Israel is on the agenda more now than before. Most believe Israel will not be a significant factor in the eyes of the voters, but do differ when it comes to specific sectors of the electorate.

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Any thoughts on Rupert?

the recent news spurred me to dig up this piece from Bollyn 2003:

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As if this wasn't part of the plan all along...

one of the long term goals of the 911 planners?
U.S. checking possibility of pumping oil from northern Iraq to Haifa
From via Rawstory;

The United States has asked Israel to check the possibility of pumping oil from Iraq to the oil refineries in Haifa. The request came in a telegram last week from a senior Pentagon official to a top Foreign Ministry official in Jerusalem.

The Prime Minister's Office, which views the pipeline to Haifa as a "bonus" the U.S. could give to Israel in return for its unequivocal support for the American-led campaign in Iraq... more (full article via Rawstory)

gretavo's picture

Rabbi Goldstein (Neturei Karta) Lecture on Zionism

Er, this works better... great lecture on the history of Zionism by one of Neturei Karta's rabbis.

"...The Muslim people basically got involved in the fight against zionism when it started affecting them on a political basis which is 1917 for the Palestinians or afterwards for some of the other Arab countries, We [religious Jews] were in this fight from 1890 roughly... As soon as it was founded [zionism], it was condemned - Jews came out and said this is atheistic, this is idol worship..."

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The Case for International Zionism As The Orchestrators of 9/11

The only logical conclusion that a reasonable person can arrive at is this: The 9-11 attacks, the anthrax murders, and numerous other foiled terror plots, were planned, orchestrated, financed, carried out, and covered up by the forces of international Zionism. What other logical explanation can there be? As incredible as this may seem, what other conclusion is there that can so neatly tie up all of the "loose ends" and mysteries related to 9-11? This is the only scenario into which the many pieces of the 9-11 jig-saw puzzle snap snugly together to reveal a clear image.

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Shayler implodes

I was browsing through 911B when I found a post on David Shayler claiming to be the messiah. The post made reference to a UK 911 forum:

Shayler had earlier claimed to be a member of British intel and spoke several times about 911. I think a lot of guys here (wtcdemo), to their credit, have previously identified him as a disinfo agent. As predicted by truthers, the shills would eventually go haywire - Shayler is now in self-destruct mode.

Here is a short background on Shayler from the Glastonbury Symposium where he talked of 911.

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Israel OKs US arms sale to Saudis

It's no surprise that we would ask for permission. So, I wonder why the title of the story was changed to "Israel signs off on U.S. arms sale to Saudis". Google shows that it was used as the original title.

"The proposed package comes with a serious sweetener for Israel: a 25 percent rise in U.S. military aid, from an annual $2.4 billion at present to $3 billion a year and guaranteed for 10 years."

Israel OKs US arms sale to Saudis - Mideast/N. Africa - MSNBC.comIn a break from historic Israeli opposition to US arms sales to Saudi Arabia, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said Sunday his country understands Washington’s ... - Jul 29, 2007 - Similar pages

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BBC uses emotional blackmail to fend off critics of their continued lying about 9/11

"It was clear that there was a widely-held view that the continued questioning of every aspect of what happened on 9/11 was distressing to the relatives and that it made it difficult for them to reach closure."

The BBC and the Truth about 911
Dennis "galen" Mitrzyk and Peter Wakefield Sault
Sent by reader
Sun, 29 Jul 2007 06:57 EDT

The following exchange of emails between two critics of the BBC and a mouthpiece for that organization looks at the broadcaster's coverage of 911, specifically a documentary aired earlier this year entitled "The Conspiracy Files". The producer of the show, Mike Rudin, has this to say about what they found on his blog:

"We didn't find anything conclusive proving the conspiracy theories. Instead we found a lot of evidence which supported the official version and contradicted the various conspiracy theories."

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